
Fighting against all odds and with audacity of hope women is changing the world. The views regarding the women thoughts are gradually changing. They are emerging as the powerful inception to all issues relating to change and renunciation.
Indians have always bowed down before women power. The Goddesses Durga, Kali, Saraswati personifies strength and determination and devotion. They are worshipped and believed to conquer the evil forces, so the growth of women power can be felt in this modern day as well.
Centuries have passed by since then. And as the time moved on the participation by the womenfolk also came into the scene emerging from the age old tradition. The tradition that was prevalent of keeping them aside and binding them with only household chores. Sixty years after Independence women now are economically independent, their thoughts have been transformed, they are now more educated and have come forward accepting challenging careers.
Compared to their male counterpart they can be even tougher and effective decision makers. We had great women leaders like Indira Gandhi, Margaret Thatcher, Srimavo Bandernaike, Benazir Bhutto. Each of them has left her mark of authority in all her dealings. At present as well we have a large group of women leaders like Pratibha Patel, Sonia Gandhi, Sheikh Hasina Wazed, Mehbooba Mufti Sayeed, Jayalalithaa Jayaram, Mayawati who are the strong pillars in the matters of exerting the democratic power.
Women are the icons of power and change. In the field of art and culture as well women have an extraordinary input. Lata Mangeshkar is lovingly called on as the nightingale of India for her contribution to Indian vocal. Astronauts Kalpana Chawla and Sunita Williams. Meera Nair, Aparna Sen, Shabana Azmi, Aishwairya Rai, Sushmita Sen and so many of them who succesfully have acclaimed international recognition in the field of cinema. Jhumpa Lahiri, Arundhati Roy grabbed awards for their excellency in English literature. Medha Patkar and Mahashweta Devi fought against BJP in Gujarat, against CPM in Nandigram issue. Women from the times immemorial have greatly devoted themselves to claim a niche for themselves.
Both men and women are equal citizens in the eyes of the law. But this is far from the reality. India ranks 115th of 162 countries in terms of gender development. There exists discrimination in the parliamentary positions where only 45 members of the Lok Sabha’s 542 seats are women and in the Rajya Sabha only 28 of 242 seats are held by women. Parliament has repeatedly witnessed ugly political exchanges and male power battles over the Women’s Reservation Bill, proposing 33.3% reservation for women. If the bill is enacted the existing 545 seats in the Lok Sabha will increase to 900. Planning has been repeatedly done but never has the solution actually being put forth and has never arrived at a consensus. There are certain such major issues like inequality in wage structure in work places where gender injustice can be seen. Problems are many and have to be sorted out with determined motive of attaining equal justice about the concerned areas.
As per human development indices countries like Sweden Norway Finland and Denmark have the highest representation of women in Parliament with 45%, 38%, 37%, 36% respectively. Whereas India is still reluctant to accept the fact that women when in power can be of great help. In the Parliamentary dealings it’s a new start like including the women candidates. Brinda Karat, became the first woman member of the CPI(M) Politburo. New faces like Priya Dutt, Supriya Sule, Priyanka Gandhi have emerged in new form of strength.
This active participation and performance shows that woman have come out successfully conquering up the odds and presenting herself unto a new dawn. Women politicos are heading the states and raising issues in the opposition. They successfully have changed public agendas, reduced corruption and improved the governance turning it to an egalitarian state of ruling. The greater representation of women in Parliament could certainly make a world of difference.
When women can head banks and corporations, why not let them give rights to run important ministries such as Defence, Home, Finance, and Commerce. Today the country needs a change. It needs a strong and faithful leader to emerge from the gloomy tactics of Indian politics, trample all those evil and tricky forces, and take the country to a path of glory… An approach where first priority lies on the policy of redefining the public requisites. And not the one who forgets his rights once the ballot has been cast…!!
People commit suicide all the time, all over the world and have been since the beginning of time.
Men have been using, abusing and subjugating women since the beginning of time, so what did you expect? You thought there would never be any payback for horrible way men have treated women? Payback’s a bitch as we say here, or maybe it is karma.
I understand you feminist tactics of blaming the men for all crimes and pardoning the women for the same. You reply seems to suggest that its pay back time for men on perceived violation of women’s rights while there is no proper evidence of how much men’s rights were violated in the past. If suicides have been there in the past, it applies to women who were harassed too! You have your foot in the mouth now. And yes, you have just confirmed what I wanted to say. The women’s movement is all about oppressing the men and enslaving them. Isn’t that what you mean by ”Payback time”> Yes, we men will give you back very soon. You will pay back for your feminizism. Not surprising that men set up strict traditions for women. We now know what led to that.
We all know how corrupt the women leaders are. We have seen enough of their rule and fetishes. What is the right step that you talk about? Have some more sexist women on board to pass more anti-male laws to make men their slaves? Slavery of men is the ultimate fantasy of women.
Hats off to her
She has changed delhi altogether and there is lot more to come in the next 4 years
she deserves to be elected 3rd time consecutively as the CM
It is not about men's or women's power that will change country's scenario but equal rights and speedy justice to all. it's about everyone - equal happy, prosperous...irrespective of male of female! what say?
Yes, we need to amend the alimony act, child custody act, domestic violence act, dowry act, adultery act and many more laws to ensure that men can also claim equality with women. Equality is being misused by women to make the system their way. hence, we men have to pay it both ways. Women are taking the advantages of tradition of modernity. Where is the equality if laws are pro-women? Let women stand at the border and sacrifice their lives. Why can’t they do it? They want equality when it comes to cosy jobs but want men to take the lead when it comes to dangerous jobs. This is fraud.
You are advocating a return to slavery and degradation for women, but you haven’t been able to stand it for even a few years. That is proof women are stronger than you, they put up with it for millennium without crying as much as you do.
Grow a pair dude!
Who told you that women were subjugated for centuries? Have you been there living here for centuries? And to what extent was it? History is the story of the victor. Feminists captured history since 100 years. We do not know what the truth is. It may be true or it may be false. Secondly, if women have withstood illtreatment since centuries, they must all be 2000 year old grannies now. How old are you Nuya?
If women are stronger than men, then we men would ask for reservations and special treatment. Ready for it?
You want them all dead? That is where it is headed.
Listen to the government official explain that because of the horrible attitudes of Indian men towards females, they kill them at such a rate there is now only 816 females for every 1000 males in his community. He says the dowry is also to blame because men extort money from the brides family for years and then set fire to the women if they are not paid enough. He also says the the violence and abuse that these men subject females to is so great that many women are choosing not to marry.
http://www.cvcradio.in/podcast/interview-indian-bride-shortage-shariah
There are many more of these tragic stories, all caused by women hating men just like you. Keep talking, keep trying to get laws that protect women repealed. Keep calling for a return of the abuse of human rights that Indian women have suffered. You will get your wish of a world without women soon enough.
http://maryanncp.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/bride-shortage-in-india/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/3308893/Indias-craving-for-boy-babies-leads-to-bride-shortage.html
”The parents thought their daughter could do better.”
”The girls’ parents have become very choosy.”
”The situation in Haryana has become so desperate that some parents are not only dropping their demands for wedding dowries, a tradition that still has a wide following in India, but are offering a ”bride price” to families of prospective mates for their sons.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article5977420.ece
The low number of girls is attributed to poor nutrition, inadequate medical care, desertion and infanticide. Mortality rates are considerably higher for girls than for boys. Girls are 12 percent more likely to die before the age of five than boys. If the son is sick, families in the countryside will get a doctor. If the girl is sick, they won’t. Many girls go hungry while food is directed to their brothers.
”We are still bogged down by the directives of Manusmriti (Codes of Manu, an ancient treatise) which make a girl child the most unwanted member in a household. ”
Missing women and brides from faraway:
Social consequences of the skewed sex ratio in India
http://hw.oeaw.ac.at/0xc1aa500d_0×001a819c.pdf
Ravinder Kaur
Associate Professor
Indian Institute of Technology Delhi, India
This is what you should be worried about and not sniveling about the lose of your misogynistic birthrite.
It is anybody’s guess how the codes of Manusmriti came into being. History is repeating itself and we are seeing how women are misusing the power given to them and how they are exploiting the men. Probably Mansusmriti was justified for that period. It would probably come back after some decades when women would completely exploit the men. I am not a woman-hater. I am a feminist hater because feminism is an anti-male, anti-family, anti-marriage, anti-baby and finally, an anti-women movement of some disgrunted, lesbian and nazi women!
You are just as responsible as if you killed them yourself because you insist on spreading the hatred of women to anyone who will listen. As long as you keep demonizing women, the women of your country are doomed.
Guess what? I bet many of them could move to countries that don’t have such an ingrained hatred of females and do quiet well. All of the Indian women that I know, I met in American Universities, they are smart and witty and interesting and most of them are quiet beautiful. Do you really think they want to go home to men who don’t appreciate them and only view them as slaves? I can’t imagine!
Quite to the contrary, it is you feminists from the west funded by UNIFEM who are spreading hatred of men and misandry. It is YOU who hates men who oppose feminism. You want men to be your lapdogs and serve you. That is the ultimate goal. You claim that we are murderers.Where is the proof that men in India are killers of women? If so, half of India would have been behind bars! On the other hand, the amount of sacrifices made by men is unimaginable. In the Kargil war, some 700 men died. Some 10 were captured alive by the enemies, and their eyes gouged out hands chopped off along with their legs, genitals chopped off and given unimaginable torture. Still, these brave soldiers didn’t open their mouths about the secrets. Similarly, various terror strikes have led to killing of Indian soldiers, the recent being the Mumbai terror sttacks. So, you cannot make such serious charges against Indian men without knowing the truth and without evidence. I would sue you for calling us all criminals and killers. Demonizing women? On the other hand, you are demonizing men. Women are very good by nature but the feminists are spoiling them. Just because we don’t bow down to feminism does not mean that we disrespect women. You want men to agree to all that shit that feminism says then we become goody goody people. While we become monstors when we oppose it. Yes, Indian women are beautiful. Now don’t spoil them with your shitty feminism!
You still are not grasping the seriousness of the situation...MILLIONS of Indian females are missing from the gene pool!
your little whining about men’s rights is nothing compared to the REAL crises of skewed sex ratio in India cause by misogyny.
The various media reports or links that you provided are nothing but feminist data for enriching the women’s groups by spreading exaggerated false propoganda and blaming the men for skewed sex ratio.
Quite to the contrary, it is psycologically proven that father love daughters more and mothers love sons more. Whatever skewed sex ratio that you claim is exaggerated and feminism itself is the cause for skewed sex ratio as it is creating false alarms about the risk of having daughters. Feminism has created misandry and androphobia and every man is looked upon with suspicion and as a potential rapist by the feminist propoganda in the media. Ancient India and until the 18th century was a period that didn’t see this deterioration of values either in terms of misandry or in terms of skewed sex ratio. The cultural invasion from the west which brought along with it feminism, a man-hating movement by some disgrunted women has been the cause of the complex phenomenon of the skewed sex ratio.
Hence the following need to be noted:
1. The skewed sex ratio is a feminist propoganda of exggerated falsehood. The calculations are unopposed by any groups. Feminists in India are a criminal lot who are dominating the scene with money from the UNIFEM.
2. There is no misogyny in India because India followed a tradition of Sanathana Dharma and even other religions were encouraged. Religious values do not allow such things.
3. The real cause of skewed sex ratio, to whatever extent it may be is the feminist propoganda of falsehood and false alarms, hatred of men, misandry and androphobia, wherein females are looked upon as ’Vulnerable’, and men are looked upon as the perpetrators of all crimes. ”female victimhood’ is one of the foundational pillars of the feminazi movement. Not surprising that many couples believe that daughters are a liability. Mothers of such daughters terminate them as a result of feminist propoganda. As more and more phobia spreads, women’s groups make more money and gain political power with a politically conscious womenfolk.
Now the world is a mess and mans wars and bad decisions is leaving us worse off than ever
To me –give me as many woman as possible to straighten out this mess
Woman are much better in running a house ,and a country is just a bigger house
Give me the huge of woman rather than the back hand of man
I hope the next universe has female gods direct humans and maybe there would be more love ,consideration and thoughtfulness on that earth
Another silly comment of yours. You didnt have the guts to give me your bank account and embarassed me in front of my women. But Now, you want the men to be screwd up except you.
I find this indeed funny that you blame men for everything and the creation of God but are silent about women using the creations of man and benefiting from it. It is the same creations of man that make women escape the cops after breaking the laws. It is the same invention of man that rewards women and exempts them from war and the expose to danger while the men sacrifice their lives. It is the same invention of men that women are enjoying - the Internet and phones. The list is endless. So, do you have a double standard wayne? If all of man’s invention is bad and all men are rascals, let women live seperately and away from man’s stupid inventions including the Internet. Better, you change your gender and be a woman.
My point is that let’s elect a suitable candidate for positions that matter lot to our country.Let’s not be swayed by emotion-treating woman as supreme or above all flaws- while choosing people as policy makers.
What has been the contribution of Pratibha Patil as President till now ?
It’s a fashion in our times to boast of women’s abilities in glorified terms without bothering least to analyze their contributions in proper light.
Look at some of the contributions of female politicians.Indira Gandhi might be hailed as ”iron lady” and I too personally admire some of her decisions but that’s no reason to ignore the fact that she was a dictator who hated opposition of any sort.She was the first one to trample the dignity of courts for her vested interest.Can anyone forget the emergency period ?
What has been the contribution of Jayalalitha as CM ?What’s Mayawati is doing as CM ? Both of them have virtually set new records in field of corruption.
Benazir Bhutto too has been involved in corrupt practices.Bangladesh is at present in grip of female politics. However, with each passing day, Bangladesh is turning into paradise for all sort of extremists that have become huge threat for Indians.
So it’s clear that it’s not women in power that will make significant change.Only better candidates are going to change the destiny of any nation.It could be either he or she !!Let’s not commit the fatal blunder of glorifying the abilities of woman!!!
Dick Chaney would be president if women voted for women just because they are women. There are more women than men in the US overall. Can you even imagine that airhead Sarah Palin being vice president? There are a lot less women in Alaska, where that no nothing, ex beauty queen was elected.
Would you vote for a woman?
Have a look at Mugabe in Zimbabwe(have u ever even heard of it??)
Saddam in Iraq
Hitler
Putin in russia
King in Saudi
I can go on with the list of great men abusing their own people
Blame game never ends my friend. Grow up!
Your answer confirms my point of view.The writer of this article has tried in vain to assert that female in power will bring desired changes.I am of the opinion that only qualified candidates are going to make desired change.The US women voted keeping in mind the eligibility of candidate and their ability to bring proper changes in American world.That’s what I am trying to suggest.Elect the candidates not on basis of gender orientations.
However, we Indians tend to turn emotional while making choices.Result:Sonia as a ”Indian Bahu” dominates her real credentials...
May be my answer is some sort of blame game in your eyes.However, for conscious readers, it’s an attempt to set the records straight with presentation of proper facts.
Yes, I have heard the name of Robert Mugabe many times.
The traits visible in politicians will be less worrisome if we select the right candidates!!
And yes,one who brings in light the flaws of women is not always gay !!
Are those women fighting for the rights of women and,in the process,have entered in male bashing are lesbians?
Why do you even care since you will never get married anyway? Haven’t you heard there is a shortage of women in India?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2723513.stm
World Health Organization says that there are 978 females for every 1,000 males.
With that few women to go around there is no way one will be wasted on the likes of you.
If there weren’t so many like you hating females, a few more might have survived.
THINK!!!! YOU are responsible for perpetuating this, you and every man like you.
These figures come from the Indian census in 2001, so there are even less now.
I told you before that there were 60 million women missing that would be here except for the fact that so many men just don’t care about females.
Now I know why the world has become like a hell!! It’s because the women like U have come on forefront , who can play with dull facts but are incapable of encircling wisdom.It’s better to remain unmarried than to get married with someone carved in image of yours as that would be nothing short of sleeping with enemy...
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Modern day marriages:
Married life is very frustrating. In the first year of marriage, the
Hubby speaks and the wife listens. In the second year, the woman speaks
and the man listens. In the third year, they both speak and the
neighbors listen.
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I see that the information I provided had absolutely no effect on you whatsoever. You could not care less if ALL the women of India disappeared, you would be saying good riddance to bad rubbish!
Those statistics are a feminist invention and manipulated. The UN is a feminist organisation and funds all Indian NGOs related to women. Its a business of women’s empowerment. Create more and more exaggerated data and spraed hatred of men. Make more money on false data.
Secondly, fighting against feminism does not make anybody a gay. I personally believe that men and women are equal but different. Men are not made to trail behind women like puppets and hen-pecked. I understand the intentions of women like you who want women in power so that more anti-male laws are passed to make men their slaves.
When are you ever going to listen
You see what people will say when they don’t like what someone says-it is not worth it
I told truth about alcohol and the power of sex as to how us humans work that will and have real or symbolically mated with any inanimate or soft tissue thing you can imagine –guess what my truth has been denied and run from all over the world –why –because people can’t live by or face truth and are brainwashed by the culture and society lived in
Arvind you are you and don’t hide as where i would never reveal myself to dizzy emotion that would kill you a million times over if you didn’t think like their brainwashed counterparts
Sorry for the rant but it makes me fell bad you are not learning
Direction change takes time and strong will–Smarten up
We hate feminists who want men to be like slaves to women. We don’t hate women. But we hate wicked women who are misusing the laws to create havoc for men. You people don’t want to stand against such misuse. You are against men. You support misuse of laws by women.
Do you even have a concept called men’s rights? While you support women’s rights to deny dowry, you do not even recognise extortion by women as reverse-dowry. Is that fair?
”We hate feminists who want men to be like slaves to women.”
But you are a chauvinist who wants all women to return to slavery, bow and gravel and walk behind you cleaning up your messes.
You demand your right to abuse and misuse the laws that were in place before..
”we need to amend the alimony act, child custody act, domestic violence act, dowry act, adultery act and many more laws”
what is the difference? The difference is that women are not killing men by the thousands!
The word ”Chauvisnism” was invented by feminists to suit their agenda and anybody who fights for men’s rights is called so. Feminazism has taken root in this culture where we men are treated as slaves and if we oppose it, we become ”Chauvinists”. You want men to pay for women both ways. While women enjoy rights without responsibilities.
”what is the difference? The difference is that women are not killing men by the thousands!”
When the truth is brought out, it makes you uncomfortable. Women are forcing men to commit suicide. Every year, 57000 married men commit suicide due to harassment by women and it is not even taken cognisance of by the society or law. And you say women don’t kill men. You want equality while perpetuate unequal laws towards men and then you divert the issue towards something else.
FIRST ANSWER THIS QUESTION: AMEND THE LAWS THAT I QUOTED AND THEN TALK ABOUT EQUALITY!
We Indians hate women!!
It’s a baseless assumption.We love and respect them.But we are a worried lot now because the philosophy that corrupted women in West has started making it’s presence felt in India as well.
There is no harm in showing the door to wrong people and that includes women as well.
Why do you Indians hate women despite of the fact that Indian women are doing well at many fronts? Do you hate them because they are denying the dowry these days?
Women MPs, MLAs too have criminal records.
Yes i would like to be a woman and maybe your mother and then i could give you a spanking for being such a pest
Now you go do your homework before you go out and play
Now that you want to change your gender, do it. Don’t waste time and don’t be a hypocrat. Don’t complain about masculinity while you are yourself a man! Don’t be a man-killer and murderer!
First address those laws that I quoted and stop behaving like a feminazi! I don’t want to spank your ass and dirty my hands.
Can you accept discrimination against women? If yes, then I would accept discrimination against men. [The reality]
Yes, I am upset with the women’s movement which is not about equality but domination by women over men. My personal life or your personal life is immaterial.
It seems you are very upset. Has somebody betrayed you? Why can’t you accept the reality?
You have not commented on my questions. But I have already told you that there is no huge shortage of women as feminists claim. Feminism is the business of women’s rights and into making money on spreading hatred of men. Nobody is denying that there is a problem. But the extent is not what feminists claim. Men are not responsible for what is happening. Feminists would love to blame men for all that is happening.
I have never seen such disregard for human life that would cause a man to advocate for the extermination of his own race. It is truly mind boggling!
According to the Census conducted in 2001, India had total population of 1,028,610,328 out of which population of males was 532,156,772 as against 496,453,556 number of females with overall sex ratio of 933/1000
There is a remarkably low rate of violent crime against strangers in most of the big cities, and it is safe to walk the streets of Mumbai or Bangalore late at night. But every six hours, a young married woman is burnt to death, beaten to death, or driven to suicide by emotional abuse from her husband, figures show.
More than two-thirds of married women in India aged between 15 and 49 have been beaten, raped or forced to provide sex, according to the UN Population Fund.
One of the most common causes of violence against women is dowry-related. In most of India, women’s families are still expected to provide their husbands with dowries when they marry.
Husbands - or their families - who are dissatisfied with the dowry beat, emotionally abuse and often even kill the women.
Last year 6,787 cases were recorded of women murdered by their husbands or their husbands’ families because of their dowries. Many die in ”stove burnings”: set alight by husbands or in-laws who then claim it was a kitchen accident.
I never said that the sex ratio is not skewed. I said it is exaggerated. It is also shown and interpreted as female hatredness and ”as a result of prejudice against women”. Forgetting the fact that more than 50% of India is below the poverty line and mortality rate is very high besides women in lower strata of society do not get proper medical treatment as a result of corruption in civil hospitals. All these are a cause for the lower sex ratio. Secondly, men are believed to be stronger than women and hence can provide for the family. [MEN ARE ATM MACHINES]. So, this belief is also the cause for it. Last but not the least, feminism is exaggerting the facts and creating a horrendous picture of women. It is instigating women to fight men on the false belief that men are all perpetrators of crimes and women are all victims. Hence, this female victimhood theory is also the cause of termination of female babies on the false premise that women are victims and in horrible condition. YOUR OWN FEMINAZISM IS CONTRIBUTING TO THIS PROBLEM IN A BIG WAY AS YOUR INTENTIONS ARE TO MAKE MONEY AND GAIN POWER AND NOT TO HALT THE PROBLEM.
BUSY DESTROYING WOMEN? I will sue you for this derogatory remark! How the hell can you make such a statement? I understand your desperation to make more money on the premise of ”Female victimhood” but it is actually you who are killers of women and culture. Women never faced the severity that they are facing on account of you. You want to kill family and marriage system - the only two support systems that women and men have today and replace it with a call girl system as in the west.
”There is a remarkably low rate of violent crime against strangers in most of the big cities, and it is safe to walk the streets of Mumbai or Bangalore late at night. But every six hours, a young married woman is burnt to death, beaten to death, or driven to suicide by emotional abuse from her husband, figures show”.
This is all false and malicious propoganda by feminists. This is the root cause of female forticide and infanticide. Every death of a married woman within 7 years of marriage is considered automatically a dowry death. Every such death is automatically termed a death due to harassment by her husband. Not surprising that such data is collected. When the methodology of data collection is wrong, the final data and figures should also be wrong. On the other hand, harassment of men by women is not even recorded by the legal system. A death of a man, even after he writes a suicide note is treated as social service and the wife is not arrested. No case is lodged against the culprit wife giving the impression that all men are rascals and all women are angels and victims.
”More than two-thirds of married women in India aged between 15 and 49 have been beaten, raped or forced to provide sex, according to the UN Population Fund.”
This is another feminist shit from the feminazi organisation called the U.N. which is helping feminists all over the world. With this feminazi propoganda, women’s groups are able to garner more funds for themselves and gain political power in all nations. Its a clever trick to make money and attain power, take control of the systems. Legal loopholes, wrong collection of data and unopposed research is leading to such malicious and outrageous propoganda. At the same time, there are no laws to take cognisance of men’s problems and harassment by women. So, it would give the impression that women alone are victims and men are the perpetrators. This U.N. report speaks nothing about men being harassed and beaten by women. It also has major flaws in it and the report has not mentioned about what the men had to say in this regard and with regard to such a serious allegation that has been made against them. Nothing is fair in this report. Its malicious and false!
”One of the most common causes of violence against women is dowry-related. In most of India, women’s families are still expected to provide their husbands with dowries when they marry.”
98% of dowry cases are false! India’s supreme court has called the dowry law ”Legal terrorism”. While the dracocian laws do not help the genuine women, they only help as tools of extortion in the hands of wicked women and feminazis. The problem continues, and women’s groups want to continue and perpetuate the problem so that they can stay afloat and live off the business of women’s rights.
”Husbands - or their families - who are dissatisfied with the dowry beat, emotionally abuse and often even kill the women.”
Nobody even recognises the fact that feminazis use the genuine cases of women being abused to make more anti-male laws to extort and dominate. Nobody even knows and recognises harassment by wives - verbal, oral, physical, and emotional, on their men for money and assets as dowry in reverse. While there are laws and acts to curb harassment of women, not a single law to take cognisance of harassment by women. What is fair about this system when it does not recognise the rights of men? There is no equality.
”Last year 6,787 cases were recorded of women murdered by their husbands or their husbands’ families because of their dowries. Many die in ”stove burnings”: set alight by husbands or in-laws who then claim it was a kitchen accident.”
Not surprising that such figures come out when every death of a married lady within 7 years of marriage is automatically a ’Dowry death’ and the in-laws are automatically held responsible for it. The national commission for women, [Read commission for wives} has come out with a recommendation that this 7 year limit should be removed and all deaths of women any time after marriage would be automatically termed dowry deaths. Now, we can surely see a massive increase in the figures that you have quoted and widespread propoganda would be created that all men are rascals and all women are angels. This is the politics of feminism and the politics of female victimhood. The cops make money, judges, Lawyers, women’s groups also make a killing with these kinds of laws as the husband cannot bear the harassment by the legal system for a crime that he has not committed. Strangely, this extortion by women and the system is not recognised as dowry harassment in reverse; infact it is encouraged by feminazis.
You think you are clever. You want to hold Rohans of our country responsible for skewed sex ratio of our country. Guilt by association - tired old techique. In fact, I hold you responsible for all the reprehensible atrocities committed against african americans throughout your despicable history. You and your forebears are responsible for all the lynchings that took place in the south.
Now coming to the skewed sex ratio - there are two main causes - for neither of which Rohans of our country were responsible.
a) Deaths during child birth
b) Female feoticide
After sixty years of independence from the British, our government should be hanging its head in shame that women in our country have 1 in 70 chance of dying during child birth. Where are the f’ing feminists on this issue? For them, passing skewed, human rights violating, summary penalities seeking, malicious male hating legislation is the highest prioity.
Female feoticide is largely caused by the f’ing feminist propaganda. Everywhere you turn, you are bombarded by the hopelessness of female existence. In fact, the middle class females live much better lives than middle class lives in India. But that doesnt matter. Every female is brainwashed to wear the victim badge. Little realizing this very act is making the parents believe that female lives are hopeless, better abort them now than letting our girl child in misery all her life. Until, this massive victim propaganda is ceased, there is no hope of preventing female feoticide.
Every female is brainwashed to wear the victim badge.
Very well said.
...That’s the only way to make them suitable for stupid feminist theories promoted by the West.And this make the likes of Todd to say that Indians hate women !!!
The parents don’t kill the girl babies out of some sense of hopelessness, they kill them because females are viewed as nothing but a burden.
It is not propaganda when it is really happening, the word propaganda means a lie. The phenomenon of killing of female children in India is centuries old, and feminism is only decades old, thus you are the one engaging in propaganda, not the feminists.
I would gladly take responsibility
for the plight of people who lived 200 years ago, if it meant anything. This is today, this is happening now, this is not ancient history. This is about the attitudes TODAY!!!!
welcome another woman hater to the thread, now Rohan and Arvind have company.
”welcome another woman hater to the thread, now Rohan and Arvind have company ”
Nuya,I don’t expect a mature lady like U to enter in dubious gestures.You are at the moment committing fatal logical fallacies.
Well,if women can point out the flaws,crimes and weakness etc. of men and still be hailed as progressive ladies in our times then why can’t men do the same ?I mean point out the flaws and weakness governing women.
I don’t think all the people,especially men who are placing women in the dock are women-haters.Going by that logic I feel you people are nothing but male-haters!!
Please don’t enter in game of labels.Why do U feel that wrong trend patterns of women be endorsed by all and sundry when it has become sort of norm to scrutinize each and every activity of men under the lens ?
The rules are equal for both men and women.If they are equal as men, let them be ready to face the trials and tribulations faced by the men and be open to all sorts of inquiries.The problem is that women is ,after all, women.
The women of our times are ”selective” in nature.They immediately become ”women” when thing goes out of hand.They are ”male” when it comes to enjoy all sorts of facilities but are women when they are trapped in situation that really require many traits. What a contradiction ?
”The parents don’t kill the girl babies out of some sense of hopelessness, they kill them because females are viewed as nothing but a burden.”
The sense of hopelessness is created and fanned by the feminists. True Indian culture and ancient India never saw this. It was only after the west invaded India that India saw the deterioration. Along with consumerism and commercialisation came the insanity called feminism which has created false propaganda and exaggeration about women to suit their agenda of female victimhood. FEMINISTS ARE PERPETUATING THE PROBLEM OF SKEWED SEX RATIO.
”It is not propaganda when it is really happening, the word propaganda means a lie. The phenomenon of killing of female children in India is centuries old, and feminism is only decades old, thus you are the one engaging in propaganda, not the feminists.”
Yes, it is indeed happening and the propoganda is about the nature and extent of it, the exaggeration are you are into is the propoganda as much as the cause of it. The phenomenon of killing girl children or anybody is new. Ancient India was glorious and a land of spirituality until the feminists invaded it. The propoganda that feminists have created to perpetuate female victimhood with exaggerated false statements has created misandry and androphobia in India and elsewhere.
”I would gladly take responsibility
for the plight of people who lived 200 years ago, if it meant anything. This is today, this is happening now, this is not ancient history. This is about the attitudes TODAY!!!!”
You are not prepared to take responsibility today. Forget about taking responsibility for something 200 years back. You talk about women’s rights minus the responsibility. Talk about responsibility too.
That was a wonderful answer to Nuya. Indeed women like her cannot accept the price they are made to pay for attaining equality. They cannot face critisizm as traditionally, men were supposed to be chivalrous and were not supposed to complain about women. Women in turn were given strict codes of conduct, were not exposed to the outside world and would not get corrupted. Today, women have been liberated and work outside, are exposed to corruption and are themselves corrupt. But they don’t want the benefits of tradition to go. They want to be treated with moral superiority over men and as ”Women”. These are double standards. They want the advantages of tradition and modernity.
THE REAL FEMINAZIS AND THEIR WICKED INTENTIONS. WHO IS THE REAL HATER? PEOPLE LIKE US OR FEMINISTS? YOU DECIDE.
”Clearly you are not yet a free-thinking feminist but rather one of those women who bounce off the male-dominated, male-controlled social structures. Who cares how men feel or what they do or whether they suffer? They have had over 2000 years to dominate and made a complete hash of it. Now it is our turn. My only comment to men is, if you don’t like it, bad luck - and if you get in my way I’ll run you down.”
Letter to the editor, signed: “Liberated Women”, Boronia Herald-Sun, Melbourne , Australia - 9 February 1996
I have a great deal of difficulty with the idea of the ideal man. As far as I’m concerned, men are the product of a damaged gene. They pretend to be normal but what they’re doing sitting there with benign smiles on their faces is they’re manufacturing sperm. They do it all the time. They never stop.
Germain Greer
”All men are rapists and that’s all they are”
Marilyn French, Author ”The Women’s Room”
”My feelings about men are the result of my experience. I have little sympathy for them. Like a Jew just released from Dachau , I watch the handsome young Nazi soldier fall writhing to the ground with a bullet in his stomach and I look briefly and walk on. I don’t even need to shrug. I simply don’t care. What he was, as a person, I mean, what his shames and yearnings were, simply don’t matter.”
Marilyn French, Author ”The Women’s Room”
”Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women’s bodies.”
”Rape is the primary heterosexual model for sexual relating.
Rape is the primary emblem of romantic love.
Rape is the means by which a woman is initiated into her womanhood as it is defined by men.
Andrea Dworkin
“I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which a man structurally does not have. He does not have it because he cannot have it. He’s just incapable of it.”
Former Congresswoman Barbara Jordan
Women are the only oppressed group in our society that lives in intimate association with their oppressors.
Evelyn Cunningham
”All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman.”
Catherine MacKinnon
”The media treat male assaults on women like rape, beating, and murder of wives and female lovers, or male incest with children, as individual aberrations...obscuring the fact that all male violence toward women is part of a concerted campaign.”
Marilyn French
”Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release.”
Germaine Greer.
”Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience.”
Catherine Comin- Vassar College . Assistant Dean of Students.
”Men renounce whatever they have in common with women so as to experience no commonality with women; and what is left...is one piece of flesh a few inches long, the penis. The penis is the man; the man is human; the penis signifies humanity.”
Andrea Dworkin
”You grow up with your father holding you down and covering your mouth so another man can make a horrible searing pain between your legs.”
Catherine MacKinnon (Prominent legal feminist scholar
”Man-hating is everywhere, but everywhere it is twisted and transformed, disguised, tranquilized, and qualified. It coexists, never peacefully, with the love, desire, respect, and need women also feel for men. Always man-hating is shadowed by its milder, more diplomatic and doubtful twin, ambivalence.”
Judith Levine
”Men’s sexuality is mean and violent, and men so powerful that they can ’reach WITHIN women to fuck/construct us from the inside out.’ Satan-like, men possess women, making their wicked fantasies and desires women’s own. A woman who has sex with a man, therefore, does so against her will, ’even if she does not feel forced.’
Judith Levine
’To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he’s a machine, a walking dildo.”
Scum Manifesto-Valerie Solanas
FMS stands for: FULL OF MOSTLY SHIT; FOR MORE SADISM; FELONS, MURDERERS, SCUMBALLS; FREQUENT MOLESTERS SOCIETY
From a February 1995 handout at the “Stone Angels” satanic ritual abuse conference in Thunder Bay , Ontario , Canada. The conference was supported financially by the Ontario Government:
”The male is a domestic animal which, if treated with firmness...can be trained to do most things.”
Jilly Cooper, SCUM (Society for Cutting up Men.)
”Women have their faults- men have only two: everything they say and everything they do.”
Popular Feminist Graffiti
”I feel what they feel: man-hating, that volatile admixture of pity, contempt, disgust, envy, alienation, fear, and rage at men. It is hatred not only for the anonymous man who makes sucking noises on the street, not only for the rapist or the judge who acquits him, but for what the Greeks called philo-aphilos, ’hate in love,’ for the men women share their lives with–husbands, lovers, friends, fathers, brothers, sons, coworkers.”
Judith Levine, My Enemy, My love
”There are no boundaries between affectionate sex and slavery in (the male) world. Distinctions between pleasure and danger are academic; the dirty-laundrylist of ’sex acts’...includes rape, foot binding, fellatio, intercourse, auto eroticism, incest, anal intercourse, use and production of pornography, cunnilingus, sexual harassment, and murder.”
J. Levine; summarizing comment on the WAS document, (A southern Women’s Writing Collective: Women Against Sex.)
”All men are good for is fucking, and running over with a truck”.
Statement made by A University of Maine Feminist Administrator, quoted by Richard Dinsmore, who brought a successful civil suit against the University in the amount of $600,000. Richard had protested the quote; was dismissed thereafter on the grounds of harassment; and responded by bringing suit against the University. 1995 settlement.
”I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig.”
Andrea Dworkin.
”Men are rapists, batterers, plunderers, killers; these same men are religious prophets, poets, heroes, figures of romance, adventure, accomplishment, figures ennobled by tragedy and defeat. Men have claimed the earth, called it ”Her”. Men ruin Her. Men have airplanes, guns, bombs, (and) poisonous gases, weapons so perverse and deadly that they defy any authentically human imagination.
Andrea Dworkin
”On the Left, on the Right, in the Middle; Authors, statesmen, thieves; so-called humanists and self-declared fascists; the adventurous and the contemplative, in every realm of male expression and action, violence is experienced and articulated as love and freedom.”
Andrea Dworkin,
”I was, in reality, bred by my parents as my father’s concubine... What we take for granted as the stability of family life may well depend on the sexual slavery of our children. What’s more, this is a cynical arrangement our institutions have colluded to conceal.”.
Journalist Sylvia Fraser
”We are taught, encouraged, moulded by and lulled into accepting a range of false notions about the family. As a source of some of our most profound experiences, it continues to be such an integral part of our emotional lives that it appears beyond criticism. Yet hiding from the truth of family life leaves women and children vulnerable.”
Canadian Panel on Violence Against Women.
”I feel that ’man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.”
Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor.
”I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire.”
Robin Morgan
”And let’s put one lie to rest for all time: the lie that men are oppressed, too, by sexism–the lie that there can be such a thing as ’men’s liberation groups.’ Oppression is something that one group of people commits against another group, specifically because of a ’threatening’ characteristic shared by the latter group–skin, color, sex or age, etc. The oppressors are indeed FUCKED UP by being masters, but those masters are not OPPRESSED. Any master has the alternative of divesting himself of sexism or racism–the oppressed have no alternative–for they have no power but to fight. In the long run, Women’s Liberation will of course free men–but in the short run it’s going to cost men a lot of privilege, which no one gives up willingly or easily. Sexism is NOT the fault of women–kill your fathers, not your mothers”.
Robin Morgan.
”Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women’s bodies.”
Andrea Dworkin
”In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent.”
Catharine MacKinnon,
”And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference.”
Susan Griffin,
”The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist”.
Ti-Grace Atkinson, Amazon Odyssey (p. 86)
”(Rape) is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear”.
Susan Brownmiller, Against Our Will p.6
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”When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression...”
Sheila Jeffreys
MALE: represents a variant of or deviation from the category of female. The first males were mutants...the male sex represents a degeneration and deformity of the female.
MAN: an obsolete life form... an ordinary creature who needs to be watched...a contradictory baby-man...
From ’A feminist Dictionary; ed. Kramarae and Triechler, Pandora Press, 1985
”If the classroom situation is very heteropatriarchal–a large beginning class of 50 to 60 students, say, with few feminist students–I am likely to define my task as largely one of recruitment...of persuading students that women are oppressed,” said Professor Joyce Trebilcot of Washington University, as quoted in Who Stole Feminism: How Women Have Betrayed Women.
”Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation, and destroy the male sex.”
Valerie Solana, SCUM Manifesto (Society for Cutting Up Men.)
”Men, as a group, tend to be abusive, either verbally, sexually or emotionally. There are always the exceptions, but they are few and far between (I am married to one of them). There are different levels of violence and abuse and individual men buy into this system by varying degrees. But the male power structure always remains intact.”
Message on FEMISA, responding to a request for arguments that men are unnecessary for a child to grow into mature adulthood
That was an excellent reply. The feminists are silent about female mortality and pathetic heath conditions in govt. hospitals. I remember a case where a female doctor turned away a pregnant lady about to deliver because she could not pay her a bribe. Both the lady and her unborn child died!
Women’s groups are out there to make money and gain power using women’s rights as the issue. Its the business of women’s rights.
Not surprising that when you are benefitting from feminist idiocracies, you support it. Anything against feminism is termed misogynist. While feminism is itself a man-hating propoganda and Talibanism in reverse! Nobody here ever blamed women for war or famine. That accusation is unfounded and shows your lack of basic knowledge about what we are saying. We are against feminist scums who want to enslave the men and destroy society with their reverse Talibanist ideas. GET A LIFE!
You have also stated that women do not deserve any rights or freedoms because they do not serve in the front lines in the military.
What is feminist about rights and protections? The right to not be beaten, raped, forced into child marriage, deserted, have children taken away, disinherited, paid less, enslaved, bought, sold etc. seems only reasonable.
If those things had not been happening, there would have never been laws enacted to stop them.
The person who told you to go join the Taliban had the right idea, they have the same low opinion of women that you do.
”Rohand, you have stated time and time again, that you want a removal of ALL laws enacted to protect women. Why do You want to remove all of the rights and protections of women?”
When and where have I said that? I am asking for equal rights and laws for men.
”You have also stated that women do not deserve any rights or freedoms because they do not serve in the front lines in the military.”
When did I say this? This is a classic case of feminist twisting of the facts. You are not able to answer my question and hence you put words into my mouth. I want to know why are women not serving on the front lines and dying for the nation when they are claiming equality? They want men to do all the dirty and dangerous work while they want equality only in cosy white-collared jobs.
”What is feminist about rights and protections? The right to not be beaten, raped, forced into child marriage, deserted, have children taken away, disinherited, paid less, enslaved, bought, sold etc. seems only reasonable.”
Feminism is the Talibanism in reverse for the 21st century as it has gone far beyond reasonableness and intends to oppress men, enslave them, treat them as dispoable dogs, without any rights and give only responsibilities to them. The various laws such as the DV act, IPC 498A, Alimony act, child custody act, rape law, etc. are classic examples of what feminism is about and it is beyond all reasonable demand. Yes, is now unreasonable and Talibanist in reverse.
”If those things had not been happening, there would have never been laws enacted to stop them.”
Nobody is asking for repealment of laws to protect women. We are asking for equal rights for men in these laws and protection of men against misuse. Secondly, women also indulge in all those dirty crimes. There are no laws to take cognisance of them.
”The person who told you to go join the Taliban had the right idea, they have the same low opinion of women that you do.”
This is another example of how feminists twist facts and shift the focus. They call anybody a Taliban when they oppose them. Here, opposing feminism does not imply hating women. There are many women who hate feminism too. Feminism is an anti-male, anti-marriage. anti-family, anti-society, anti-feminine and anti-good women revolution of disgrunted, unscupulous women!
“Pregnancy forced on child brides is the biggest cause of deaths during child birth. The murder of women by abusive husbands another reason for the shortage of women. “
Best example of feminist propaganda. No where is the mention of poor state of medical facilities, grinding poverty of the masses, lack of education and a host of other concomitant causes. Nay - it is the “abusive husbands”. Where do you get this information, other than from the f’ing feminist propaganda mill.
”The parents don’t kill the girl babies out of some sense of hopelessness, they kill them because females are viewed as nothing but a burden. “
They both mean the same “sense of hopelessness and viewing as a burden. I have already given the reason why this is so.
”It is not propaganda when it is really happening, the word propaganda means a lie. The phenomenon of killing of female children in India is centuries old, and feminism is only decades old, thus you are the one engaging in propaganda, not the feminists. “
Facts are facts – propaganda is attributing fictitious, self-serving reasons for the facts. No where can you find better examples of feminist propaganda than this idea of dowry death and bride burning, denigrating the whole nation as made up of greedy bride burners. One of the earliest and most notable woman’s rights activist Ms Madhu Poornima Kishwar’s study on the Dowry practice in India and the evil feminist politics around it is given here - http://www.indiatogether.org/manushi/issue148/dowry.htm
for your information.
And then, where did you get this idea that “phenomenon of killing of female children in India is centuries old’. This is nothing short of breathtaking libelous statement against the whole country and culture. If we were routinely killing girls for centuries, how the @#$% have we grown to be a billion plus nation?
”I would gladly take responsibility for the plight of people who lived 200 years ago, if it meant anything. This is today, this is happening now, this is not ancient history. This is about the attitudes TODAY!!!! “
200 years, my A%$. When you were all busy segregating blacks in schools, water fountains, in public buses, and when you were busy shooting down black leaders like Martin Luther Kings; we in India have already elected a woman prime minister “Indira Gandhi”. Before you preach, go back and check your prison populations – how come more than 70% of it is black when black comprise less than 20% population.
”welcome another woman hater to the thread, now Rohan and Arvind have company.”
I am not a woman hater, but the contrary. But I hate liers and propagandists. All the feminist scum belong to this category, but fortunately for our country, they comprise a miniscule percentage of the population. There are enough women’s organizations being started in India now who oppose the bankrupt western feminist ideologies.
That was awesome! These feminzi scums need to be cornered somehow before they destroy the beautiful planet and the lovely women and men with their hate propoganda.
More of your propaganda and shifting blame to divert attention is the race baiting. Again, that has nothing to do with today.
You view any woman who will not submit to being beaten, raped and enslaved as a feminist. They are supposed be locked in the house, waiting on you hand and foot, producing baby after baby. They are not supposed to have any rights or freedoms, they are supposed to be just disposable property for your enjoyment. If you all had treated them better, it would have never come to this.
”You are the propagandist here, denying that Indians routinely kill females through, selective abortions, infanticide and abuse, allowing for there to become a shortage of MILLIONS of females, doesn’t make it any less a fact”
The propoganda created by feminazis is directly responsible for this phenomemen, the exaggeration and false propoganda that Indian kill millions of women itself is the reason behind the increasing anxiety among parents of girl children. You have not answered the question of Kris pertaining to the mortality and the corruption in hospitals due to which a lot of women and their children are dying. You have no answer to that. You do not want to address that issue as the minute you do it, your business of women’s rights ends.
STOP THIS BUSINESS OF SELLING WOMEN’S RIGHTS AND LAY OFF INDIAN WOMEN! DON’T CORRUPT THEM WITH FEMALE VICTIMHOOD CONCEPTS TO MAKE MONEY FOR YOURSELF AND GAIN POLITICAL POWER.
”Men fight in wars, die from accidents and just generally live shorter lives, so if the killing of females wasn’t happening, there would be a surplus, not a shortage.”
Did anybody deny that there is a shortage? But who is responsible for it? It is the feminist movement which is creating a hysteria about female victimhood. Secondly, you agree that men are dying in wars, accidents etc. Isn’t that a fact that society discriminates them by making them do things that are dangerous and life-threatening? Where is the equality here? Why are women not dying like men?
”More of your propaganda and shifting blame to divert attention is the race baiting. Again, that has nothing to do with today.”
We undertand the clever tricks of feminists who have an agenda to create mass hysteria among women and men about female victimhood and the clever way you bloat up or invent statistics and push it through the feminist media. There is no diversion. The point is very clear. STOP PLAYING GENDER POLITICS.
”You view any woman who will not submit to being beaten, raped and enslaved as a feminist. They are supposed be locked in the house, waiting on you hand and foot, producing baby after baby. They are not supposed to have any rights or freedoms, they are supposed to be just disposable property for your enjoyment.”
That is your imagination and hallucination. Anybody who opposes you malicious, corrupt and criminal intentions automatically becomes a Talibanist. There is no room for critisizm in feminism. India was not a land of female hatredness any time. No land was hating women. Certain people misused the system in earlier times and that gave birth to feminism. Now, you feminists have made it a business.
”If you all had treated them better, it would have never come to this.”
If you didn’t make it a business and didn’t play the female victimhood theory, we men would have kept quiet. But you want men to be your slaves. You want women to fight against men on the false and malicious notion that men are all criminals and women are all victims. You want to destroy the family system and marriage system. YOU WANT TO ATTACK THE ROOT OF SOCIETY - THE FAMILY. So, we oppose you tooth and nail.
It is your choice! Do you continue to harbor this hatred for females or do you accept that you just missed out on having a built in slave by a few decades?
There is no going back now, the women have rights now, they have protections that they didn’t have before.
Women do die in combat and accidents, women do all the same things men do, soldiers, policemen, firefighters, construction workers, doctors, lawyers, teachers…. it is equal, same job, same pay.
As for Kris and his assertion that women die in hospitals, I don’t doubt it, but since most women in India never make it to a hospital or even a doctor, that is not even a small percentage of the problem. Having too many babies and having them too young depletes a woman’s body of nutrients and causes organs to fail.
There are 5 million MORE women than men in the US, it is almost exactly the same number as women over the age of 60 years. Women have not had the same amount of heart disease as men and they are more likely to go to the doctor when they are sick than men.
Who is responsible for the shortage? Everyone who has the mindset that females are not just as valuable as males, that is who!
Time to stop seeing females as a burden to be gotten rid of and start seeing them as an asset to be valued.
Time to see a partner and a friend to share your life with and stop thinking of the male paradise that you missed out on.
You can put on your own shoes, wash your own clothes and make your own meals now, so why would you expect someone else to do it for you after you are married?
You know what, those men were never happy with that, they always wanted more and they always resented it when they got it.
You can’t respect someone who you don’t view as your equal, and you can’t love someone that you don’t respect.
”Don’t forget who you are talking to here, I have been there done that and the world moved on, just like your world will move on, with or without you. It is your choice! Do you continue to harbor this hatred for females or do you accept that you just missed out on having a built in slave by a few decades?”
Why get so frustrated at not being able to answer the questions and links posted by Kris? How could I not remember a feminazi like you when I am here and talking to you. Yes, the world moves on with or without you. But history is not static. It repeats. No, I didn’t miss enslaving you. You feminists missed the point by a million miles. You thought you could dominate us and we would be happy to be dominated. Thats the point to take note of that men will not take this. Your threats from well-guarded ivory towers are absolutely useless. It just takes a little to get the shit out of you.
”There is no going back now, the women have rights now, they have protections that they didn’t have before.”
You will certainly go back the way you are behaving and murdering men. This is for sure. Don’t live in a fool’s paradise! You are the enemy of women. You don’t want equality. You want slavery of men!
”Women do die in combat and accidents, women do all the same things men do, soldiers, policemen, firefighters, construction workers, doctors, lawyers, teachers…. it is equal, same job, same pay”
Good joke! And you added all kinds of whitle-collared jobs to it. I am referring to dangerous jobs. This is quite contrary to the facts. If women indeed did all these, how come 94% of all such deaths are of men and not women? How come in Mumbai terrorist attack, all 20 people [100%] were men and not women? How come in Kargil and all wars, all martyrs were men and not women? Don’t try to defend the indefensible and make a fool of yourself baby!
”As for Kris and his assertion that women die in hospitals, I don’t doubt it, but since most women in India never make it to a hospital or even a doctor, that is not even a small percentage of the problem. Having too many babies and having them too young depletes a woman’s body of nutrients and causes organs to fail.”
Every district has a hospital and every village has a Doctor. Again, it is the mistake of the govt. which feminazis don’t want to rectify so that they can go about blaming men for the problem. Indian food corporation is overflowing and that food is being diverted to other stores. What is the public distribution system doing? What are feminazis doing about it?
”There are 5 million MORE women than men in the US, it is almost exactly the same number as women over the age of 60 years. Women have not had the same amount of heart disease as men and they are more likely to go to the doctor when they are sick than men.”
India allocated 7200 crores for women. Not a single rupee for men. Inspite of this, if women in rural India are malnutritioned, it is the fault of the feminazis who get these funds. Women in America or any other part of the world get less heart attacks or disease because they are not exposed to the same level of stress as men. Men are in the most dangerous and difficult jobs. 94% of all deaths of people in combat and jobs are of men.
”Who is responsible for the shortage? Everyone who has the mindset that females are not just as valuable as males, that is who! Time to stop seeing females as a burden to be gotten rid of and start seeing them as an asset to be valued.”
Its the feminazis who are responsible to a large extent for this problem. They have created widespread misandry and androphobia, a sense of female victimhood which has made many couples feel that daughters are a burden and risk. The truth is that this propoganda is helping feminaizs create a hysteria on a mass scale and encash on it. What are the feminazis doing about maternity health of women? What are they doing about corruption in PDS? Nothing! This is not on their agenda. The only agenda is harm and men and torture them. Encash on their graves.
”Time to see a partner and a friend to share your life with and stop thinking of the male paradise that you missed out on.”
Its time you stopped thinking about the feminist paradise of enslavement of men that you dreampt about. We men will fight it out and you will go back if you don’t stop harassing men. LAY OFF MEN!
”You can put on your own shoes, wash your own clothes and make your own meals now, so why would you expect someone else to do it for you after you are married?”
Why do you expect men to pay alimony and maintenance? Why do you expect men to take over all dirty and dangerous jobs while you want equality only in white-collared cosy jobs? Why do you want crimes on women to be bracketed and dealt with seperately? Why do you want the advantages of tradition and modernity together? Don’t be a cheat!
”You know what, those men were never happy with that, they always wanted more and they always resented it when they got it.”
So, you have taken the idea from them and implementing it yourself?
”You can’t respect someone who you don’t view as your equal, and you can’t love someone that you don’t respect”
This applies to the feminazis. They neither want equality nor respect. They simply want enslavement of men and that they call it equality. Anybody who opposes reverse discrimination automatically becomes an mcp. so much for the stupid equality.
BECAUSE WOMEN ARE NOT GENERALLY TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MEN ARE!!! DO YOU NEED MORE PROOF THAN WHAT YOU JUST WROTE? YOU ARE SHOWING THE WORLD WHAT A FOOL YOU ARE.
and since when is soldier, police and firefighter a white collar job? You are completely blinded by your hatred of women, you can not even think straight any more.
”””””Why do you expect men to pay alimony and maintenance? Why do you expect men to take over all dirty and dangerous jobs while you want equality only in white-collared cosy jobs? Why do you want crimes on women to be bracketed and dealt with seperately? Why do you want the advantages of tradition and modernity together? Don’t be a cheat!””””””
MEN DON’T PAY ALIMONY!!! YOU ARE LIVING IN THE DISTANT PAST!!! WOMEN DO ALL THE SAME JOBS MEN DO!!!!!! SINCE WHEN IS POLICE OFFICER AND A CONSTRUCTION WORKER A COZY JOB??????? WHY DO YOU REALLY HATE WOMEN SO MUCH???? WHY WOULD YOU WANT THEM PUT IN MEN’S PRISON????
I would never want a man to be my slave, I wouldn’t have a man who was anything less than my equal!!!! Unlike you who wants all women to be slaves for your enjoyment, it don’t work the other way around.
””””Its time you stopped thinking about the feminist paradise of enslavement of men that you dreampt about. We men will fight it out and you will go back if you don’t stop harassing men. LAY OFF MEN!”””
I see you don’t know the meaning of the word ”partner”, it is not surprising since you only see women as a life support system for a vagina.
I still don’t know why you care since none of it has anything to do with you.
You will never have to worry about a wife harassing you, you will never have one.
”BECAUSE WOMEN ARE NOT GENERALLY TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MEN ARE!!! DO YOU NEED MORE PROOF THAN WHAT YOU JUST WROTE? YOU ARE SHOWING THE WORLD WHAT A FOOL YOU ARE.”
A problem is a problem. The question is on the solution to the problem. We are not doing a research on terrorists and their gender. We want to eliminate terrorism. What are women doing out there? Nothing! Expecting the men to sacrifice their lives and still claim equality. For that matter, when there were beasts in the forest in the earliest stages of civilization, women were content being in the safe confines of their huts while the men took the risk. You want to shift the focus onto something else and escape the question. You cannot.
”and since when is soldier, police and firefighter a white collar job? You are completely blinded by your hatred of women, you can not even think straight any more.”
How many women soldiers have died like dogs? They just take the perks and remain in the safe confines. Otherwise, there is no reason why 94% of all deaths in wars and during the course of work should have been men.
”MEN DON’T PAY ALIMONY!!! YOU ARE LIVING IN THE DISTANT PAST!!! WOMEN DO ALL THE SAME JOBS MEN DO!!!!!! SINCE WHEN IS POLICE OFFICER AND A CONSTRUCTION WORKER A COZY JOB??????? WHY DO YOU REALLY HATE WOMEN SO MUCH???? WHY WOULD YOU WANT THEM PUT IN MEN’S PRISON????”
Men don’t pay alimony? Ask any divored man in India to know. Ask any divorcee in the west. Men are scared of divorce simply because of alimony. Women don’t do whatever a man does. They are very selective. Yes, woman police officers don’t take the risk of venturing into remote areas nor do they like being posted in danger zones! Its a fact. I don’t hate women. I hate the feminist values that are a paradox and anti-male.
”I would never want a man to be my slave, I wouldn’t have a man who was anything less than my equal!!!! Unlike you who wants all women to be slaves for your enjoyment, it don’t work the other way around.”
If you don’t want a man as your slave, why do you have all these stupid anti-male laws and keep spreading misandry. You say something and do something else. NO, I am not into keeping slaves as you feminists are.
”I see you don’t know the meaning of the word ”partner”, it is not surprising since you only see women as a life support system for a vagina.”
Hahha. Had a good laugh. I don’t know the meaning of partner? Do you know its meaning? Yes, a man who is subservient and acts according to the whims of a woman.
”I still don’t know why you care since none of it has anything to do with you.”
I am not gay. Same time, I don’t like feminist women. P
”You will never have to worry about a wife harassing you, you will never have one.”
The day feminism came into India, every man was affected as feminists poisoned the minds of women quoting imaginary and exaggerated statistics and wrong set of values. They degraded women and spolit them.
Your response shows your inability to grasp simple things. I didn’t say women didn’t contribute to society. I said, women do not perform the same roles as men and avoind inconvenient and difficult, dangerous tasks. I said women talk about equality only where it suits them and talk about tradition when it does not suits them. Otherwise, there cannot be a reason why 94% of all deaths in wars, in the course of duty and in accidents have to of men and not women. In all wars, it is the men who die as soldiers. In the Kargil war, not a single woman soldier died. In the Mumbai terror strikes, not a single woman cop died. Your insability to understand this simple logic is evidence of your feminiazism and hatred of men!
If shining mirror on the ugly truths of your pathetic society is ”race baiting”, then what you are indulging in is ”gender baiting” and ”culture baiting”.
You are not to blame - the feminist scum of our country, fattened on the free foreign funds have denigrated and defiled our country’s reputation with fallacious accounts. True, our societies have problems. They are complex socio economic issues. But reducing these complex issues into male hating malicious mono-think is a testament to the feminist scum’s monumental propaganda. We will not let it go unchallenged.
It does not matter what is done with the laws, you will never be happy with it, you will never see it as equal, you will always demand less for women and more for men.
Time goes on but history repeats itself. Nobody has told you and feminazis like you don’t want the world to know that in the past, another set of your cronies had harassed men of those times. When it reached alarming levels, they set it right. So, history would indeed repeat itself even though time flies. You want men to be like you slaves, cleaning you bloody bitchy asses! We will NOT accept it!
You are so delusional that you think women once ran the world and some super heroes managed to beat them back into the kitchens.
”””You want men to be like you slaves, cleaning you bloody bitchy asses! We will NOT accept it!”””
You are sick, you need help, you are having fantasies about something that never happened. Couldn’t happen, didn’t happen, no time in history have men ever cleaned women’s asses, and certainly not bloody asses, most men won’t even go to the store to buy Kotex!
”You are insane! There is no doubt about it now! You are so delusional that you think women once ran the world and some super heroes managed to beat them back into the kitchens.”———————————————
Women are running the world today with feminist media, feminist govt. and media. In a similar manner, there was a past when it happened. This will repeat with your arrogance. Feminists will pay for their arrogance. There are no some super heroes. The entire generation of men joined hands and disempowered the arrogant feminists.
”You are sick, you need help, you are having fantasies about something that never happened. Couldn’t happen, didn’t happen, no time in history have men ever cleaned women’s asses, and certainly not bloody asses, most men won’t even go to the store to buy Kotex!”
How do you know that it never happened? Have you been living since 5000 years to know that? And you say that history never repeats itself? It is you who are in an imaginary world that your arrogant behaviour and murders will come free and that you will not have to pay the price of it. Oh yeah, you must have been living for 5000 years to know all that. As though similar situations never happen in history. BETTER BE WITHIN YOUR LIMITS OR ELSE, WE WILL ORGANISE AND SEND YOU BACK!
Everything that happened in the past and that which will happen in future, there is some reason behind it. If women were discriminated for some period, what could be the cause? Its anybody’s guess. 25 years back, in India, we could probably believe feminist rantings. But today, we know. The laws and behaviour of feminists make us understand how and what could have led to that situation. I also know that it will repeat.
By Kevin Myers
Tuesday May 05 2009
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/kevin-myers/the-feminist-sirens-remained-quiet-for-the-victim-is-a-man-1728418.html
LEARN TO RESPECT THE RIGHTS OF MEN OR YOU WILL LEARN IT THE HARD WAY!
Women always ran the world through the backseat. They made the men perform all the difficult tasks at a time when the threat from nature was very large and providing food was not easy as it is today. There were no complaints of inequality then and women were happy to have men provide for them while they enjoyed being within the four walls or gathering food which the men hunted. Its only now and because threat from nature has decreased to zero and machines are there to perform work. So, its a joke to say that men always ruled. Yes, they did at various times. But women always did from the backseat. Further, every social movement or situation had a cause and effect. To see just the effect is foolishness. You are forgetting the most likely cause. BTW, no history book ever mentions about what preceded that for obvious reasons.
”Women never had any power, men are predators and women are their prey and it has always been that way.”
Oh yeah, thats also the reason why we have feminists laws in all developed nations and in India too where a mere statement of a woman can land a man or men behind bars, no proof required. It is also the reason why every year, 57000 married Indian men commit sucide as compared to 23000 married Indian women. Its also the reason why under the feminist laws, there is no right of defence for a man and everything is based on the woman’s statements. And yes, all casualties in wars, jobs etc are of men and not women. 94% of all cases have men sacrifice their lives. So you still say women never had any power! And you cannot account for all these and more!
”Men are predators and women are prey”. This is a feminazi hatred concept to gain political mileage among women by provoking them. This is sexist to say the least. It is like saying, blacks are predators and whites are victims. This can land you in jail! This outrageous statement is condemnable and it defies the fact that women are human beings with all the weaknesses and strengths. Are women not human beings?
”You have a very warped sense of the world if you thought that women loved being mens slaves and punching bags.”
My warped sense of the world tells me that women are human beings as men and have similar weaknesses and strengths. Hence, sadism and the desire to dominate and dictate being innate human weaknesses, it is difficult to conceptualise how women can be beyond this. Recent incidents of sadism on the part of women and feminists, especially, in bringing about anti-male laws in the last 50 years strengthens this idea. And personally speaking, I have seen enough women who posses this. GIVEN POWER, WOMEN WILL DOMINATE AND DICTATE MEN. THIS BEING THE ERA OF FEMINAZISM, WE ARE ALREADY SEEING THE AFTER EFFECTS OF WOMEN EMPOWERMENT AND SADISM AMONG WOMEN IS AS GRAVE AND SERIOUS AS IN MEN.
Come on now, they had to have a meeting to decide if women were even human!!!!
You pick the singularly MOST misogynistic organization on the planet to hold up as an example?
An all boys club if there was ever one, they are the bastions of patriarchy and opponents of women’s rights.
If it is even possible to have LESS regard for women than you do, it would be the Vatican.
Not to mention that the story comes from a place where women’s rights movement hasn’t even started yet. Those children are fatherless for the same reason they always have been, the men run off and abandon them.
Just because they oppose people like you and wayne and your misandry, your female domination, does not make them anti-women. Just because they want regulation in society as opposed to unfettered power to women does not make them anti-women. ”Patriarchy”? Well, are you not sleeping with it too at night and whipping it during day? Its better to be very clear about things than be as crooked as feminists who want the advantages of tradition and modernity. You want tradition to remain only where it suits you and give all kinds of absurd excuses to cover-up that. Its better that we support the Vatican than the feminazis.
LEARN TO RESPECT THE RIGHTS OF MEN OR YOU WILL LEARN IT THE HARD WAY! ””
Sounds like a threat.
Because men have always been physically bigger, they have always used their fists to beat women into submission. Guess you plan on carrying on that tradition?
Whatever way you take it, its a clear warning to feminazis like you. May off men or the men will tackle you.
If men are physically bigger, women are stronger in many other ways. Nature has balanced every species and gender. Nothing is left without any defence and reason.
But if you feminazis start inflicting harm on us, we have every right and reason to defend ourselves. Its a simple truth and your foolish brain should understand it well. Good luck!
When did self-respect and self-defence become murder ot killing?
You do not even know what self-defence is. You want men to withstand all the torture from feminists and any protest is termed as ”Sick mentality of men to eliminate women”.
In other words, feminists want enslavement of men under the banner of equality and do not want men to oppose it.
By Lito Zulueta
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 03:58:00 01/24/2009
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20090124-185270/Feminism-blamed-for-erosion-of-manhood
MANILA, Philippines—A high-ranking Vatican official currently in Manila has warned of the erosion of manhood and the “crisis in fatherhood” that have resulted in millions of children worldwide without a father or enjoying emotionally healthy relations with one.
German Cardinal Paul Josef Cordes, president of the Pontifical Council “Cor Unum,” the Vatican dicastery (or administrative agency) on charity, aid and relief, blamed “gender mainstreaming” and “radical feminism” for attacking biological manhood and insisting that “sexual roles are learned.”
He said men are demeaned and what is held up as an ideal is a man who is feminized and emasculated, one who, in a European study, is held up to be “a sweeter man.”
Fatherhood in crisis
“Is male identity then nothing other than a product of a special culture and the consequences of social circumstances?” Cordes asked in his speech, “Fatherhood-An Auxiliary Role?”, which was his doctorate address Friday after receiving an honorary doctorate in theology from the Pontifical University of Santo Tomas.
The doctoral hat and cape were bestowed by UST Rector Magnificus and former Commission on Higher Education chairman Fr. Rolando V. de la Rosa, O.P.
Witnessing it were German Ambassador Christian Ludwig Weber Lortsch, Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines president Archbishop Angel Lagdameo, CHEd chair Emmanuel Angeles, and former Philippine Ambassador to the Vatican Henrietta de Villa, who is now consultor of the pontifical agency headed by Cordes.
‘The new man’
Cordes said statistics around the world “confirm that today the self-understanding of manhood and especially fatherhood is in crisis.”
He said a Catholic Charities survey in the United States showed that 24 million children are living in homes without a father. He said “fatherless boys are twice as likely to be in prison; they are more likely to drop out or be expelled from school; they account for 63 percent of suicides, and 90 percent of those who run away from home.”
He said in his own country, the German newspaper Frankfurther Allgemeinen, ran a story with the headline, “The Insecure Man.”
Cordes blamed the loss of manhood and fatherhood to liberal and secularistic legislations to invent “the new man.”
“We have grown accustomed to hearing about legislation undermining the role of the father, such as adoption by gay so-called ‘parents,’” Cordes said. “A bill passed recently in Britain (‘Human Fertilization and Embryology Bill of 2008’) allows two lesbians or single mothers to conceive a child without a father; all that is needed is ‘supportive parents.’
Some newspapers hailed this as ‘the end of fatherhood.’”
He said a survey of German universities recently showed that while there were 98 university chairs “for deepening questions on womanhood,” only one existed for men.
“In Europe, psychologists and anthropologists have labored to diminish masculinity,” Cordes said. “New investigations such as that published by the Council of Europe in 1998 claim that the ‘new man’ is ‘sweeter.’
Men and fathers should be led to become more like women and mothers in their behavior and reactions. They also advocated ‘flexibility of the sexes’ in the education of children.
Cordes said the erosion of manhood and fatherhood has a negative impact on “boys’ self-understanding,” adding that even girls form their self-understanding by their relationship with fathers and men.
Fathers as anchor
Fathers are “an anchor for us in cases of loss and danger,” said the German prelate. When children try to carve out their own autonomous existence from their parents, it is the father they look up to.
“From the presence of the male body, something is transmitted to the ‘I’ that makes the child blossom,” Cordes said. “Whoever as an individual has never been generated or raised in the way by his father or his fathers will have a limited self-esteem.”
Cordes said the loss of masculinity and the crisis in fatherhood have bearing on Christianity, which calls God as Father. “The lack of a human father makes it difficult to grasp Jesus’s teaching on the heavenly Father,” he said.
” You want men to be like you slaves, cleaning you bloody bitchy asses! We will NOT accept it!”
...Rohan there is need for you to enter in foul language.You have expressed yourself quite well.You are in league with much better expressions.There is no dearth of better words in your dictionary.You can use them to convey your viewpoints.
I am sure you know the difference between ”harsh language” and ”foul language” .The abusive language is bound to lessen the impact you wish to leave on people like Nuya.It can undo all the good impressions generated by you.
You have the capacity to sound logical and reasonable via set of proper arguments.What’s the need to introduce wrong expressions ?
Do you think the likes of Nuya who are incapable of understanding the grim issues in light of facts and well-constructed logical arguments will ever be able to understand your point of view via arguments wrapped in wrong language?
Your efforts will go in vain if you give way to wrong expressions !!
She started it off somewhere refering to cleaning up the asses. I was provoked. But yes, these feminazis refuse to accept the reality until they are forced to by circumstances. Even then, they would call them exceptions.
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What do you mean by attitude problem? Don’t men have the attitude problem? You people can’t digest the advancement of women.
Hats off to her
She has changed delhi altogether and there is lot more to come in the next 4 years
she deserves to be elected 3rd time consecutively as the CM
It is not about men's or women's power that will change country's scenario but equal rights and speedy justice to all. it's about everyone - equal happy, prosperous...irrespective of male of female! what say?
My point is that let’s elect a suitable candidate for positions that matter lot to our country.Let’s not be swayed by emotion-treating woman as supreme or above all flaws- while choosing people as policy makers.
What has been the contribution of Pratibha Patil as President till now ?
It’s a fashion in our times to boast of women’s abilities in glorified terms without bothering least to analyze their contributions in proper light.
Look at some of the contributions of female politicians.Indira Gandhi might be hailed as ”iron lady” and I too personally admire some of her decisions but that’s no reason to ignore the fact that she was a dictator who hated opposition of any sort.She was the first one to trample the dignity of courts for her vested interest.Can anyone forget the emergency period ?
What has been the contribution of Jayalalitha as CM ?What’s Mayawati is doing as CM ? Both of them have virtually set new records in field of corruption.
Benazir Bhutto too has been involved in corrupt practices.Bangladesh is at present in grip of female politics. However, with each passing day, Bangladesh is turning into paradise for all sort of extremists that have become huge threat for Indians.
So it’s clear that it’s not women in power that will make significant change.Only better candidates are going to change the destiny of any nation.It could be either he or she !!Let’s not commit the fatal blunder of glorifying the abilities of woman!!!
Have a look at Mugabe in Zimbabwe(have u ever even heard of it??)
Saddam in Iraq
Hitler
Putin in russia
King in Saudi
I can go on with the list of great men abusing their own people
Blame game never ends my friend. Grow up!
Your answer confirms my point of view.The writer of this article has tried in vain to assert that female in power will bring desired changes.I am of the opinion that only qualified candidates are going to make desired change.The US women voted keeping in mind the eligibility of candidate and their ability to bring proper changes in American world.That’s what I am trying to suggest.Elect the candidates not on basis of gender orientations.
However, we Indians tend to turn emotional while making choices.Result:Sonia as a ”Indian Bahu” dominates her real credentials...
May be my answer is some sort of blame game in your eyes.However, for conscious readers, it’s an attempt to set the records straight with presentation of proper facts.
Yes, I have heard the name of Robert Mugabe many times.
The traits visible in politicians will be less worrisome if we select the right candidates!!
And yes,one who brings in light the flaws of women is not always gay !!
Are those women fighting for the rights of women and,in the process,have entered in male bashing are lesbians?
Now I know why the world has become like a hell!! It’s because the women like U have come on forefront , who can play with dull facts but are incapable of encircling wisdom.It’s better to remain unmarried than to get married with someone carved in image of yours as that would be nothing short of sleeping with enemy...
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Modern day marriages:
Married life is very frustrating. In the first year of marriage, the
Hubby speaks and the wife listens. In the second year, the woman speaks
and the man listens. In the third year, they both speak and the
neighbors listen.
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Women of our generation have a HUGE ATTITUDE PROBLEM AND ARROGANCE WHICH IS MANIFESTED IN THE MISUSE OF LAWS and the shameless declaration of equality, superiority and weakness all at the same time.
We all know how corrupt the women leaders are. We have seen enough of their rule and fetishes. What is the right step that you talk about? Have some more sexist women on board to pass more anti-male laws to make men their slaves? Slavery of men is the ultimate fantasy of women.
Yes, we need to amend the alimony act, child custody act, domestic violence act, dowry act, adultery act and many more laws to ensure that men can also claim equality with women. Equality is being misused by women to make the system their way. hence, we men have to pay it both ways. Women are taking the advantages of tradition of modernity. Where is the equality if laws are pro-women? Let women stand at the border and sacrifice their lives. Why can’t they do it? They want equality when it comes to cosy jobs but want men to take the lead when it comes to dangerous jobs. This is fraud.
Another silly comment of yours. You didnt have the guts to give me your bank account and embarassed me in front of my women. But Now, you want the men to be screwd up except you.
I find this indeed funny that you blame men for everything and the creation of God but are silent about women using the creations of man and benefiting from it. It is the same creations of man that make women escape the cops after breaking the laws. It is the same invention of man that rewards women and exempts them from war and the expose to danger while the men sacrifice their lives. It is the same invention of men that women are enjoying - the Internet and phones. The list is endless. So, do you have a double standard wayne? If all of man’s invention is bad and all men are rascals, let women live seperately and away from man’s stupid inventions including the Internet. Better, you change your gender and be a woman.
Those statistics are a feminist invention and manipulated. The UN is a feminist organisation and funds all Indian NGOs related to women. Its a business of women’s empowerment. Create more and more exaggerated data and spraed hatred of men. Make more money on false data.
Secondly, fighting against feminism does not make anybody a gay. I personally believe that men and women are equal but different. Men are not made to trail behind women like puppets and hen-pecked. I understand the intentions of women like you who want women in power so that more anti-male laws are passed to make men their slaves.
We hate feminists who want men to be like slaves to women. We don’t hate women. But we hate wicked women who are misusing the laws to create havoc for men. You people don’t want to stand against such misuse. You are against men. You support misuse of laws by women.
Do you even have a concept called men’s rights? While you support women’s rights to deny dowry, you do not even recognise extortion by women as reverse-dowry. Is that fair?
Women MPs, MLAs too have criminal records.
The word ”Chauvisnism” was invented by feminists to suit their agenda and anybody who fights for men’s rights is called so. Feminazism has taken root in this culture where we men are treated as slaves and if we oppose it, we become ”Chauvinists”. You want men to pay for women both ways. While women enjoy rights without responsibilities.
”what is the difference? The difference is that women are not killing men by the thousands!”
When the truth is brought out, it makes you uncomfortable. Women are forcing men to commit suicide. Every year, 57000 married men commit suicide due to harassment by women and it is not even taken cognisance of by the society or law. And you say women don’t kill men. You want equality while perpetuate unequal laws towards men and then you divert the issue towards something else.
FIRST ANSWER THIS QUESTION: AMEND THE LAWS THAT I QUOTED AND THEN TALK ABOUT EQUALITY!
Now that you want to change your gender, do it. Don’t waste time and don’t be a hypocrat. Don’t complain about masculinity while you are yourself a man! Don’t be a man-killer and murderer!
First address those laws that I quoted and stop behaving like a feminazi! I don’t want to spank your ass and dirty my hands.
It seems you are very upset. Has somebody betrayed you? Why can’t you accept the reality?
I understand you feminist tactics of blaming the men for all crimes and pardoning the women for the same. You reply seems to suggest that its pay back time for men on perceived violation of women’s rights while there is no proper evidence of how much men’s rights were violated in the past. If suicides have been there in the past, it applies to women who were harassed too! You have your foot in the mouth now. And yes, you have just confirmed what I wanted to say. The women’s movement is all about oppressing the men and enslaving them. Isn’t that what you mean by ”Payback time”> Yes, we men will give you back very soon. You will pay back for your feminizism. Not surprising that men set up strict traditions for women. We now know what led to that.
Who told you that women were subjugated for centuries? Have you been there living here for centuries? And to what extent was it? History is the story of the victor. Feminists captured history since 100 years. We do not know what the truth is. It may be true or it may be false. Secondly, if women have withstood illtreatment since centuries, they must all be 2000 year old grannies now. How old are you Nuya?
If women are stronger than men, then we men would ask for reservations and special treatment. Ready for it?
It is anybody’s guess how the codes of Manusmriti came into being. History is repeating itself and we are seeing how women are misusing the power given to them and how they are exploiting the men. Probably Mansusmriti was justified for that period. It would probably come back after some decades when women would completely exploit the men. I am not a woman-hater. I am a feminist hater because feminism is an anti-male, anti-family, anti-marriage, anti-baby and finally, an anti-women movement of some disgrunted, lesbian and nazi women!
Can you accept discrimination against women? If yes, then I would accept discrimination against men. [The reality]
Yes, I am upset with the women’s movement which is not about equality but domination by women over men. My personal life or your personal life is immaterial.
Quite to the contrary, it is you feminists from the west funded by UNIFEM who are spreading hatred of men and misandry. It is YOU who hates men who oppose feminism. You want men to be your lapdogs and serve you. That is the ultimate goal. You claim that we are murderers.Where is the proof that men in India are killers of women? If so, half of India would have been behind bars! On the other hand, the amount of sacrifices made by men is unimaginable. In the Kargil war, some 700 men died. Some 10 were captured alive by the enemies, and their eyes gouged out hands chopped off along with their legs, genitals chopped off and given unimaginable torture. Still, these brave soldiers didn’t open their mouths about the secrets. Similarly, various terror strikes have led to killing of Indian soldiers, the recent being the Mumbai terror sttacks. So, you cannot make such serious charges against Indian men without knowing the truth and without evidence. I would sue you for calling us all criminals and killers. Demonizing women? On the other hand, you are demonizing men. Women are very good by nature but the feminists are spoiling them. Just because we don’t bow down to feminism does not mean that we disrespect women. You want men to agree to all that shit that feminism says then we become goody goody people. While we become monstors when we oppose it. Yes, Indian women are beautiful. Now don’t spoil them with your shitty feminism!
You have not commented on my questions. But I have already told you that there is no huge shortage of women as feminists claim. Feminism is the business of women’s rights and into making money on spreading hatred of men. Nobody is denying that there is a problem. But the extent is not what feminists claim. Men are not responsible for what is happening. Feminists would love to blame men for all that is happening.
You think you are clever. You want to hold Rohans of our country responsible for skewed sex ratio of our country. Guilt by association - tired old techique. In fact, I hold you responsible for all the reprehensible atrocities committed against african americans throughout your despicable history. You and your forebears are responsible for all the lynchings that took place in the south.
Now coming to the skewed sex ratio - there are two main causes - for neither of which Rohans of our country were responsible.
a) Deaths during child birth
b) Female feoticide
After sixty years of independence from the British, our government should be hanging its head in shame that women in our country have 1 in 70 chance of dying during child birth. Where are the f’ing feminists on this issue? For them, passing skewed, human rights violating, summary penalities seeking, malicious male hating legislation is the highest prioity.
Female feoticide is largely caused by the f’ing feminist propaganda. Everywhere you turn, you are bombarded by the hopelessness of female existence. In fact, the middle class females live much better lives than middle class lives in India. But that doesnt matter. Every female is brainwashed to wear the victim badge. Little realizing this very act is making the parents believe that female lives are hopeless, better abort them now than letting our girl child in misery all her life. Until, this massive victim propaganda is ceased, there is no hope of preventing female feoticide.
We Indians hate women!!
It’s a baseless assumption.We love and respect them.But we are a worried lot now because the philosophy that corrupted women in West has started making it’s presence felt in India as well.
There is no harm in showing the door to wrong people and that includes women as well.
Every female is brainwashed to wear the victim badge.
Very well said.
...That’s the only way to make them suitable for stupid feminist theories promoted by the West.And this make the likes of Todd to say that Indians hate women !!!
”welcome another woman hater to the thread, now Rohan and Arvind have company ”
Nuya,I don’t expect a mature lady like U to enter in dubious gestures.You are at the moment committing fatal logical fallacies.
Well,if women can point out the flaws,crimes and weakness etc. of men and still be hailed as progressive ladies in our times then why can’t men do the same ?I mean point out the flaws and weakness governing women.
I don’t think all the people,especially men who are placing women in the dock are women-haters.Going by that logic I feel you people are nothing but male-haters!!
Please don’t enter in game of labels.Why do U feel that wrong trend patterns of women be endorsed by all and sundry when it has become sort of norm to scrutinize each and every activity of men under the lens ?
The rules are equal for both men and women.If they are equal as men, let them be ready to face the trials and tribulations faced by the men and be open to all sorts of inquiries.The problem is that women is ,after all, women.
The women of our times are ”selective” in nature.They immediately become ”women” when thing goes out of hand.They are ”male” when it comes to enjoy all sorts of facilities but are women when they are trapped in situation that really require many traits. What a contradiction ?
“Pregnancy forced on child brides is the biggest cause of deaths during child birth. The murder of women by abusive husbands another reason for the shortage of women. “
Best example of feminist propaganda. No where is the mention of poor state of medical facilities, grinding poverty of the masses, lack of education and a host of other concomitant causes. Nay - it is the “abusive husbands”. Where do you get this information, other than from the f’ing feminist propaganda mill.
”The parents don’t kill the girl babies out of some sense of hopelessness, they kill them because females are viewed as nothing but a burden. “
They both mean the same “sense of hopelessness and viewing as a burden. I have already given the reason why this is so.
”It is not propaganda when it is really happening, the word propaganda means a lie. The phenomenon of killing of female children in India is centuries old, and feminism is only decades old, thus you are the one engaging in propaganda, not the feminists. “
Facts are facts – propaganda is attributing fictitious, self-serving reasons for the facts. No where can you find better examples of feminist propaganda than this idea of dowry death and bride burning, denigrating the whole nation as made up of greedy bride burners. One of the earliest and most notable woman’s rights activist Ms Madhu Poornima Kishwar’s study on the Dowry practice in India and the evil feminist politics around it is given here - http://www.indiatogether.org/manushi/issue148/dowry.htm
for your information.
And then, where did you get this idea that “phenomenon of killing of female children in India is centuries old’. This is nothing short of breathtaking libelous statement against the whole country and culture. If we were routinely killing girls for centuries, how the @#$% have we grown to be a billion plus nation?
”I would gladly take responsibility for the plight of people who lived 200 years ago, if it meant anything. This is today, this is happening now, this is not ancient history. This is about the attitudes TODAY!!!! “
200 years, my A%$. When you were all busy segregating blacks in schools, water fountains, in public buses, and when you were busy shooting down black leaders like Martin Luther Kings; we in India have already elected a woman prime minister “Indira Gandhi”. Before you preach, go back and check your prison populations – how come more than 70% of it is black when black comprise less than 20% population.
”welcome another woman hater to the thread, now Rohan and Arvind have company.”
I am not a woman hater, but the contrary. But I hate liers and propagandists. All the feminist scum belong to this category, but fortunately for our country, they comprise a miniscule percentage of the population. There are enough women’s organizations being started in India now who oppose the bankrupt western feminist ideologies.
That was awesome! These feminzi scums need to be cornered somehow before they destroy the beautiful planet and the lovely women and men with their hate propoganda.
Not surprising that when you are benefitting from feminist idiocracies, you support it. Anything against feminism is termed misogynist. While feminism is itself a man-hating propoganda and Talibanism in reverse! Nobody here ever blamed women for war or famine. That accusation is unfounded and shows your lack of basic knowledge about what we are saying. We are against feminist scums who want to enslave the men and destroy society with their reverse Talibanist ideas. GET A LIFE!
The various media reports or links that you provided are nothing but feminist data for enriching the women’s groups by spreading exaggerated false propoganda and blaming the men for skewed sex ratio.
Quite to the contrary, it is psycologically proven that father love daughters more and mothers love sons more. Whatever skewed sex ratio that you claim is exaggerated and feminism itself is the cause for skewed sex ratio as it is creating false alarms about the risk of having daughters. Feminism has created misandry and androphobia and every man is looked upon with suspicion and as a potential rapist by the feminist propoganda in the media. Ancient India and until the 18th century was a period that didn’t see this deterioration of values either in terms of misandry or in terms of skewed sex ratio. The cultural invasion from the west which brought along with it feminism, a man-hating movement by some disgrunted women has been the cause of the complex phenomenon of the skewed sex ratio.
Hence the following need to be noted:
1. The skewed sex ratio is a feminist propoganda of exggerated falsehood. The calculations are unopposed by any groups. Feminists in India are a criminal lot who are dominating the scene with money from the UNIFEM.
2. There is no misogyny in India because India followed a tradition of Sanathana Dharma and even other religions were encouraged. Religious values do not allow such things.
3. The real cause of skewed sex ratio, to whatever extent it may be is the feminist propoganda of falsehood and false alarms, hatred of men, misandry and androphobia, wherein females are looked upon as ’Vulnerable’, and men are looked upon as the perpetrators of all crimes. ”female victimhood’ is one of the foundational pillars of the feminazi movement. Not surprising that many couples believe that daughters are a liability. Mothers of such daughters terminate them as a result of feminist propoganda. As more and more phobia spreads, women’s groups make more money and gain political power with a politically conscious womenfolk.
I never said that the sex ratio is not skewed. I said it is exaggerated. It is also shown and interpreted as female hatredness and ”as a result of prejudice against women”. Forgetting the fact that more than 50% of India is below the poverty line and mortality rate is very high besides women in lower strata of society do not get proper medical treatment as a result of corruption in civil hospitals. All these are a cause for the lower sex ratio. Secondly, men are believed to be stronger than women and hence can provide for the family. [MEN ARE ATM MACHINES]. So, this belief is also the cause for it. Last but not the least, feminism is exaggerting the facts and creating a horrendous picture of women. It is instigating women to fight men on the false belief that men are all perpetrators of crimes and women are all victims. Hence, this female victimhood theory is also the cause of termination of female babies on the false premise that women are victims and in horrible condition. YOUR OWN FEMINAZISM IS CONTRIBUTING TO THIS PROBLEM IN A BIG WAY AS YOUR INTENTIONS ARE TO MAKE MONEY AND GAIN POWER AND NOT TO HALT THE PROBLEM.
BUSY DESTROYING WOMEN? I will sue you for this derogatory remark! How the hell can you make such a statement? I understand your desperation to make more money on the premise of ”Female victimhood” but it is actually you who are killers of women and culture. Women never faced the severity that they are facing on account of you. You want to kill family and marriage system - the only two support systems that women and men have today and replace it with a call girl system as in the west.
”There is a remarkably low rate of violent crime against strangers in most of the big cities, and it is safe to walk the streets of Mumbai or Bangalore late at night. But every six hours, a young married woman is burnt to death, beaten to death, or driven to suicide by emotional abuse from her husband, figures show”.
This is all false and malicious propoganda by feminists. This is the root cause of female forticide and infanticide. Every death of a married woman within 7 years of marriage is considered automatically a dowry death. Every such death is automatically termed a death due to harassment by her husband. Not surprising that such data is collected. When the methodology of data collection is wrong, the final data and figures should also be wrong. On the other hand, harassment of men by women is not even recorded by the legal system. A death of a man, even after he writes a suicide note is treated as social service and the wife is not arrested. No case is lodged against the culprit wife giving the impression that all men are rascals and all women are angels and victims.
”More than two-thirds of married women in India aged between 15 and 49 have been beaten, raped or forced to provide sex, according to the UN Population Fund.”
This is another feminist shit from the feminazi organisation called the U.N. which is helping feminists all over the world. With this feminazi propoganda, women’s groups are able to garner more funds for themselves and gain political power in all nations. Its a clever trick to make money and attain power, take control of the systems. Legal loopholes, wrong collection of data and unopposed research is leading to such malicious and outrageous propoganda. At the same time, there are no laws to take cognisance of men’s problems and harassment by women. So, it would give the impression that women alone are victims and men are the perpetrators. This U.N. report speaks nothing about men being harassed and beaten by women. It also has major flaws in it and the report has not mentioned about what the men had to say in this regard and with regard to such a serious allegation that has been made against them. Nothing is fair in this report. Its malicious and false!
”One of the most common causes of violence against women is dowry-related. In most of India, women’s families are still expected to provide their husbands with dowries when they marry.”
98% of dowry cases are false! India’s supreme court has called the dowry law ”Legal terrorism”. While the dracocian laws do not help the genuine women, they only help as tools of extortion in the hands of wicked women and feminazis. The problem continues, and women’s groups want to continue and perpetuate the problem so that they can stay afloat and live off the business of women’s rights.
”Husbands - or their families - who are dissatisfied with the dowry beat, emotionally abuse and often even kill the women.”
Nobody even recognises the fact that feminazis use the genuine cases of women being abused to make more anti-male laws to extort and dominate. Nobody even knows and recognises harassment by wives - verbal, oral, physical, and emotional, on their men for money and assets as dowry in reverse. While there are laws and acts to curb harassment of women, not a single law to take cognisance of harassment by women. What is fair about this system when it does not recognise the rights of men? There is no equality.
”Last year 6,787 cases were recorded of women murdered by their husbands or their husbands’ families because of their dowries. Many die in ”stove burnings”: set alight by husbands or in-laws who then claim it was a kitchen accident.”
Not surprising that such figures come out when every death of a married lady within 7 years of marriage is automatically a ’Dowry death’ and the in-laws are automatically held responsible for it. The national commission for women, [Read commission for wives} has come out with a recommendation that this 7 year limit should be removed and all deaths of women any time after marriage would be automatically termed dowry deaths. Now, we can surely see a massive increase in the figures that you have quoted and widespread propoganda would be created that all men are rascals and all women are angels. This is the politics of feminism and the politics of female victimhood. The cops make money, judges, Lawyers, women’s groups also make a killing with these kinds of laws as the husband cannot bear the harassment by the legal system for a crime that he has not committed. Strangely, this extortion by women and the system is not recognised as dowry harassment in reverse; infact it is encouraged by feminazis.
”The parents don’t kill the girl babies out of some sense of hopelessness, they kill them because females are viewed as nothing but a burden.”
The sense of hopelessness is created and fanned by the feminists. True Indian culture and ancient India never saw this. It was only after the west invaded India that India saw the deterioration. Along with consumerism and commercialisation came the insanity called feminism which has created false propaganda and exaggeration about women to suit their agenda of female victimhood. FEMINISTS ARE PERPETUATING THE PROBLEM OF SKEWED SEX RATIO.
”It is not propaganda when it is really happening, the word propaganda means a lie. The phenomenon of killing of female children in India is centuries old, and feminism is only decades old, thus you are the one engaging in propaganda, not the feminists.”
Yes, it is indeed happening and the propoganda is about the nature and extent of it, the exaggeration are you are into is the propoganda as much as the cause of it. The phenomenon of killing girl children or anybody is new. Ancient India was glorious and a land of spirituality until the feminists invaded it. The propoganda that feminists have created to perpetuate female victimhood with exaggerated false statements has created misandry and androphobia in India and elsewhere.
”I would gladly take responsibility
for the plight of people who lived 200 years ago, if it meant anything. This is today, this is happening now, this is not ancient history. This is about the attitudes TODAY!!!!”
You are not prepared to take responsibility today. Forget about taking responsibility for something 200 years back. You talk about women’s rights minus the responsibility. Talk about responsibility too.
That was a wonderful answer to Nuya. Indeed women like her cannot accept the price they are made to pay for attaining equality. They cannot face critisizm as traditionally, men were supposed to be chivalrous and were not supposed to complain about women. Women in turn were given strict codes of conduct, were not exposed to the outside world and would not get corrupted. Today, women have been liberated and work outside, are exposed to corruption and are themselves corrupt. But they don’t want the benefits of tradition to go. They want to be treated with moral superiority over men and as ”Women”. These are double standards. They want the advantages of tradition and modernity.
THE REAL FEMINAZIS AND THEIR WICKED INTENTIONS. WHO IS THE REAL HATER? PEOPLE LIKE US OR FEMINISTS? YOU DECIDE.
”Clearly you are not yet a free-thinking feminist but rather one of those women who bounce off the male-dominated, male-controlled social structures. Who cares how men feel or what they do or whether they suffer? They have had over 2000 years to dominate and made a complete hash of it. Now it is our turn. My only comment to men is, if you don’t like it, bad luck - and if you get in my way I’ll run you down.”
Letter to the editor, signed: “Liberated Women”, Boronia Herald-Sun, Melbourne , Australia - 9 February 1996
I have a great deal of difficulty with the idea of the ideal man. As far as I’m concerned, men are the product of a damaged gene. They pretend to be normal but what they’re doing sitting there with benign smiles on their faces is they’re manufacturing sperm. They do it all the time. They never stop.
Germain Greer
”All men are rapists and that’s all they are”
Marilyn French, Author ”The Women’s Room”
”My feelings about men are the result of my experience. I have little sympathy for them. Like a Jew just released from Dachau , I watch the handsome young Nazi soldier fall writhing to the ground with a bullet in his stomach and I look briefly and walk on. I don’t even need to shrug. I simply don’t care. What he was, as a person, I mean, what his shames and yearnings were, simply don’t matter.”
Marilyn French, Author ”The Women’s Room”
”Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women’s bodies.”
”Rape is the primary heterosexual model for sexual relating.
Rape is the primary emblem of romantic love.
Rape is the means by which a woman is initiated into her womanhood as it is defined by men.
Andrea Dworkin
“I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which a man structurally does not have. He does not have it because he cannot have it. He’s just incapable of it.”
Former Congresswoman Barbara Jordan
Women are the only oppressed group in our society that lives in intimate association with their oppressors.
Evelyn Cunningham
”All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman.”
Catherine MacKinnon
”The media treat male assaults on women like rape, beating, and murder of wives and female lovers, or male incest with children, as individual aberrations...obscuring the fact that all male violence toward women is part of a concerted campaign.”
Marilyn French
”Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release.”
Germaine Greer.
”Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience.”
Catherine Comin- Vassar College . Assistant Dean of Students.
”Men renounce whatever they have in common with women so as to experience no commonality with women; and what is left...is one piece of flesh a few inches long, the penis. The penis is the man; the man is human; the penis signifies humanity.”
Andrea Dworkin
”You grow up with your father holding you down and covering your mouth so another man can make a horrible searing pain between your legs.”
Catherine MacKinnon (Prominent legal feminist scholar
”Man-hating is everywhere, but everywhere it is twisted and transformed, disguised, tranquilized, and qualified. It coexists, never peacefully, with the love, desire, respect, and need women also feel for men. Always man-hating is shadowed by its milder, more diplomatic and doubtful twin, ambivalence.”
Judith Levine
”Men’s sexuality is mean and violent, and men so powerful that they can ’reach WITHIN women to fuck/construct us from the inside out.’ Satan-like, men possess women, making their wicked fantasies and desires women’s own. A woman who has sex with a man, therefore, does so against her will, ’even if she does not feel forced.’
Judith Levine
’To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he’s a machine, a walking dildo.”
Scum Manifesto-Valerie Solanas
FMS stands for: FULL OF MOSTLY SHIT; FOR MORE SADISM; FELONS, MURDERERS, SCUMBALLS; FREQUENT MOLESTERS SOCIETY
From a February 1995 handout at the “Stone Angels” satanic ritual abuse conference in Thunder Bay , Ontario , Canada. The conference was supported financially by the Ontario Government:
”The male is a domestic animal which, if treated with firmness...can be trained to do most things.”
Jilly Cooper, SCUM (Society for Cutting up Men.)
”Women have their faults- men have only two: everything they say and everything they do.”
Popular Feminist Graffiti
”I feel what they feel: man-hating, that volatile admixture of pity, contempt, disgust, envy, alienation, fear, and rage at men. It is hatred not only for the anonymous man who makes sucking noises on the street, not only for the rapist or the judge who acquits him, but for what the Greeks called philo-aphilos, ’hate in love,’ for the men women share their lives with–husbands, lovers, friends, fathers, brothers, sons, coworkers.”
Judith Levine, My Enemy, My love
”There are no boundaries between affectionate sex and slavery in (the male) world. Distinctions between pleasure and danger are academic; the dirty-laundrylist of ’sex acts’...includes rape, foot binding, fellatio, intercourse, auto eroticism, incest, anal intercourse, use and production of pornography, cunnilingus, sexual harassment, and murder.”
J. Levine; summarizing comment on the WAS document, (A southern Women’s Writing Collective: Women Against Sex.)
”All men are good for is fucking, and running over with a truck”.
Statement made by A University of Maine Feminist Administrator, quoted by Richard Dinsmore, who brought a successful civil suit against the University in the amount of $600,000. Richard had protested the quote; was dismissed thereafter on the grounds of harassment; and responded by bringing suit against the University. 1995 settlement.
”I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig.”
Andrea Dworkin.
”Men are rapists, batterers, plunderers, killers; these same men are religious prophets, poets, heroes, figures of romance, adventure, accomplishment, figures ennobled by tragedy and defeat. Men have claimed the earth, called it ”Her”. Men ruin Her. Men have airplanes, guns, bombs, (and) poisonous gases, weapons so perverse and deadly that they defy any authentically human imagination.
Andrea Dworkin
”On the Left, on the Right, in the Middle; Authors, statesmen, thieves; so-called humanists and self-declared fascists; the adventurous and the contemplative, in every realm of male expression and action, violence is experienced and articulated as love and freedom.”
Andrea Dworkin,
”I was, in reality, bred by my parents as my father’s concubine... What we take for granted as the stability of family life may well depend on the sexual slavery of our children. What’s more, this is a cynical arrangement our institutions have colluded to conceal.”.
Journalist Sylvia Fraser
”We are taught, encouraged, moulded by and lulled into accepting a range of false notions about the family. As a source of some of our most profound experiences, it continues to be such an integral part of our emotional lives that it appears beyond criticism. Yet hiding from the truth of family life leaves women and children vulnerable.”
Canadian Panel on Violence Against Women.
”I feel that ’man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.”
Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor.
”I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire.”
Robin Morgan
”And let’s put one lie to rest for all time: the lie that men are oppressed, too, by sexism–the lie that there can be such a thing as ’men’s liberation groups.’ Oppression is something that one group of people commits against another group, specifically because of a ’threatening’ characteristic shared by the latter group–skin, color, sex or age, etc. The oppressors are indeed FUCKED UP by being masters, but those masters are not OPPRESSED. Any master has the alternative of divesting himself of sexism or racism–the oppressed have no alternative–for they have no power but to fight. In the long run, Women’s Liberation will of course free men–but in the short run it’s going to cost men a lot of privilege, which no one gives up willingly or easily. Sexism is NOT the fault of women–kill your fathers, not your mothers”.
Robin Morgan.
”Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women’s bodies.”
Andrea Dworkin
”In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent.”
Catharine MacKinnon,
”And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference.”
Susan Griffin,
”The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist”.
Ti-Grace Atkinson, Amazon Odyssey (p. 86)
”(Rape) is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear”.
Susan Brownmiller, Against Our Will p.6
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”When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression...”
Sheila Jeffreys
MALE: represents a variant of or deviation from the category of female. The first males were mutants...the male sex represents a degeneration and deformity of the female.
MAN: an obsolete life form... an ordinary creature who needs to be watched...a contradictory baby-man...
From ’A feminist Dictionary; ed. Kramarae and Triechler, Pandora Press, 1985
”If the classroom situation is very heteropatriarchal–a large beginning class of 50 to 60 students, say, with few feminist students–I am likely to define my task as largely one of recruitment...of persuading students that women are oppressed,” said Professor Joyce Trebilcot of Washington University, as quoted in Who Stole Feminism: How Women Have Betrayed Women.
”Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation, and destroy the male sex.”
Valerie Solana, SCUM Manifesto (Society for Cutting Up Men.)
”Men, as a group, tend to be abusive, either verbally, sexually or emotionally. There are always the exceptions, but they are few and far between (I am married to one of them). There are different levels of violence and abuse and individual men buy into this system by varying degrees. But the male power structure always remains intact.”
Message on FEMISA, responding to a request for arguments that men are unnecessary for a child to grow into mature adulthood
That was an excellent reply. The feminists are silent about female mortality and pathetic heath conditions in govt. hospitals. I remember a case where a female doctor turned away a pregnant lady about to deliver because she could not pay her a bribe. Both the lady and her unborn child died!
Women’s groups are out there to make money and gain power using women’s rights as the issue. Its the business of women’s rights.
”Rohand, you have stated time and time again, that you want a removal of ALL laws enacted to protect women. Why do You want to remove all of the rights and protections of women?”
When and where have I said that? I am asking for equal rights and laws for men.
”You have also stated that women do not deserve any rights or freedoms because they do not serve in the front lines in the military.”
When did I say this? This is a classic case of feminist twisting of the facts. You are not able to answer my question and hence you put words into my mouth. I want to know why are women not serving on the front lines and dying for the nation when they are claiming equality? They want men to do all the dirty and dangerous work while they want equality only in cosy white-collared jobs.
”What is feminist about rights and protections? The right to not be beaten, raped, forced into child marriage, deserted, have children taken away, disinherited, paid less, enslaved, bought, sold etc. seems only reasonable.”
Feminism is the Talibanism in reverse for the 21st century as it has gone far beyond reasonableness and intends to oppress men, enslave them, treat them as dispoable dogs, without any rights and give only responsibilities to them. The various laws such as the DV act, IPC 498A, Alimony act, child custody act, rape law, etc. are classic examples of what feminism is about and it is beyond all reasonable demand. Yes, is now unreasonable and Talibanist in reverse.
”If those things had not been happening, there would have never been laws enacted to stop them.”
Nobody is asking for repealment of laws to protect women. We are asking for equal rights for men in these laws and protection of men against misuse. Secondly, women also indulge in all those dirty crimes. There are no laws to take cognisance of them.
”The person who told you to go join the Taliban had the right idea, they have the same low opinion of women that you do.”
This is another example of how feminists twist facts and shift the focus. They call anybody a Taliban when they oppose them. Here, opposing feminism does not imply hating women. There are many women who hate feminism too. Feminism is an anti-male, anti-marriage. anti-family, anti-society, anti-feminine and anti-good women revolution of disgrunted, unscupulous women!
”You are the propagandist here, denying that Indians routinely kill females through, selective abortions, infanticide and abuse, allowing for there to become a shortage of MILLIONS of females, doesn’t make it any less a fact”
The propoganda created by feminazis is directly responsible for this phenomemen, the exaggeration and false propoganda that Indian kill millions of women itself is the reason behind the increasing anxiety among parents of girl children. You have not answered the question of Kris pertaining to the mortality and the corruption in hospitals due to which a lot of women and their children are dying. You have no answer to that. You do not want to address that issue as the minute you do it, your business of women’s rights ends.
STOP THIS BUSINESS OF SELLING WOMEN’S RIGHTS AND LAY OFF INDIAN WOMEN! DON’T CORRUPT THEM WITH FEMALE VICTIMHOOD CONCEPTS TO MAKE MONEY FOR YOURSELF AND GAIN POLITICAL POWER.
”Men fight in wars, die from accidents and just generally live shorter lives, so if the killing of females wasn’t happening, there would be a surplus, not a shortage.”
Did anybody deny that there is a shortage? But who is responsible for it? It is the feminist movement which is creating a hysteria about female victimhood. Secondly, you agree that men are dying in wars, accidents etc. Isn’t that a fact that society discriminates them by making them do things that are dangerous and life-threatening? Where is the equality here? Why are women not dying like men?
”More of your propaganda and shifting blame to divert attention is the race baiting. Again, that has nothing to do with today.”
We undertand the clever tricks of feminists who have an agenda to create mass hysteria among women and men about female victimhood and the clever way you bloat up or invent statistics and push it through the feminist media. There is no diversion. The point is very clear. STOP PLAYING GENDER POLITICS.
”You view any woman who will not submit to being beaten, raped and enslaved as a feminist. They are supposed be locked in the house, waiting on you hand and foot, producing baby after baby. They are not supposed to have any rights or freedoms, they are supposed to be just disposable property for your enjoyment.”
That is your imagination and hallucination. Anybody who opposes you malicious, corrupt and criminal intentions automatically becomes a Talibanist. There is no room for critisizm in feminism. India was not a land of female hatredness any time. No land was hating women. Certain people misused the system in earlier times and that gave birth to feminism. Now, you feminists have made it a business.
”If you all had treated them better, it would have never come to this.”
If you didn’t make it a business and didn’t play the female victimhood theory, we men would have kept quiet. But you want men to be your slaves. You want women to fight against men on the false and malicious notion that men are all criminals and women are all victims. You want to destroy the family system and marriage system. YOU WANT TO ATTACK THE ROOT OF SOCIETY - THE FAMILY. So, we oppose you tooth and nail.
If shining mirror on the ugly truths of your pathetic society is ”race baiting”, then what you are indulging in is ”gender baiting” and ”culture baiting”.
You are not to blame - the feminist scum of our country, fattened on the free foreign funds have denigrated and defiled our country’s reputation with fallacious accounts. True, our societies have problems. They are complex socio economic issues. But reducing these complex issues into male hating malicious mono-think is a testament to the feminist scum’s monumental propaganda. We will not let it go unchallenged.
Time goes on but history repeats itself. Nobody has told you and feminazis like you don’t want the world to know that in the past, another set of your cronies had harassed men of those times. When it reached alarming levels, they set it right. So, history would indeed repeat itself even though time flies. You want men to be like you slaves, cleaning you bloody bitchy asses! We will NOT accept it!
”Don’t forget who you are talking to here, I have been there done that and the world moved on, just like your world will move on, with or without you. It is your choice! Do you continue to harbor this hatred for females or do you accept that you just missed out on having a built in slave by a few decades?”
Why get so frustrated at not being able to answer the questions and links posted by Kris? How could I not remember a feminazi like you when I am here and talking to you. Yes, the world moves on with or without you. But history is not static. It repeats. No, I didn’t miss enslaving you. You feminists missed the point by a million miles. You thought you could dominate us and we would be happy to be dominated. Thats the point to take note of that men will not take this. Your threats from well-guarded ivory towers are absolutely useless. It just takes a little to get the shit out of you.
”There is no going back now, the women have rights now, they have protections that they didn’t have before.”
You will certainly go back the way you are behaving and murdering men. This is for sure. Don’t live in a fool’s paradise! You are the enemy of women. You don’t want equality. You want slavery of men!
”Women do die in combat and accidents, women do all the same things men do, soldiers, policemen, firefighters, construction workers, doctors, lawyers, teachers…. it is equal, same job, same pay”
Good joke! And you added all kinds of whitle-collared jobs to it. I am referring to dangerous jobs. This is quite contrary to the facts. If women indeed did all these, how come 94% of all such deaths are of men and not women? How come in Mumbai terrorist attack, all 20 people [100%] were men and not women? How come in Kargil and all wars, all martyrs were men and not women? Don’t try to defend the indefensible and make a fool of yourself baby!
”As for Kris and his assertion that women die in hospitals, I don’t doubt it, but since most women in India never make it to a hospital or even a doctor, that is not even a small percentage of the problem. Having too many babies and having them too young depletes a woman’s body of nutrients and causes organs to fail.”
Every district has a hospital and every village has a Doctor. Again, it is the mistake of the govt. which feminazis don’t want to rectify so that they can go about blaming men for the problem. Indian food corporation is overflowing and that food is being diverted to other stores. What is the public distribution system doing? What are feminazis doing about it?
”There are 5 million MORE women than men in the US, it is almost exactly the same number as women over the age of 60 years. Women have not had the same amount of heart disease as men and they are more likely to go to the doctor when they are sick than men.”
India allocated 7200 crores for women. Not a single rupee for men. Inspite of this, if women in rural India are malnutritioned, it is the fault of the feminazis who get these funds. Women in America or any other part of the world get less heart attacks or disease because they are not exposed to the same level of stress as men. Men are in the most dangerous and difficult jobs. 94% of all deaths of people in combat and jobs are of men.
”Who is responsible for the shortage? Everyone who has the mindset that females are not just as valuable as males, that is who! Time to stop seeing females as a burden to be gotten rid of and start seeing them as an asset to be valued.”
Its the feminazis who are responsible to a large extent for this problem. They have created widespread misandry and androphobia, a sense of female victimhood which has made many couples feel that daughters are a burden and risk. The truth is that this propoganda is helping feminaizs create a hysteria on a mass scale and encash on it. What are the feminazis doing about maternity health of women? What are they doing about corruption in PDS? Nothing! This is not on their agenda. The only agenda is harm and men and torture them. Encash on their graves.
”Time to see a partner and a friend to share your life with and stop thinking of the male paradise that you missed out on.”
Its time you stopped thinking about the feminist paradise of enslavement of men that you dreampt about. We men will fight it out and you will go back if you don’t stop harassing men. LAY OFF MEN!
”You can put on your own shoes, wash your own clothes and make your own meals now, so why would you expect someone else to do it for you after you are married?”
Why do you expect men to pay alimony and maintenance? Why do you expect men to take over all dirty and dangerous jobs while you want equality only in white-collared cosy jobs? Why do you want crimes on women to be bracketed and dealt with seperately? Why do you want the advantages of tradition and modernity together? Don’t be a cheat!
”You know what, those men were never happy with that, they always wanted more and they always resented it when they got it.”
So, you have taken the idea from them and implementing it yourself?
”You can’t respect someone who you don’t view as your equal, and you can’t love someone that you don’t respect”
This applies to the feminazis. They neither want equality nor respect. They simply want enslavement of men and that they call it equality. Anybody who opposes reverse discrimination automatically becomes an mcp. so much for the stupid equality.
”You are insane! There is no doubt about it now! You are so delusional that you think women once ran the world and some super heroes managed to beat them back into the kitchens.”———————————————
Women are running the world today with feminist media, feminist govt. and media. In a similar manner, there was a past when it happened. This will repeat with your arrogance. Feminists will pay for their arrogance. There are no some super heroes. The entire generation of men joined hands and disempowered the arrogant feminists.
”You are sick, you need help, you are having fantasies about something that never happened. Couldn’t happen, didn’t happen, no time in history have men ever cleaned women’s asses, and certainly not bloody asses, most men won’t even go to the store to buy Kotex!”
How do you know that it never happened? Have you been living since 5000 years to know that? And you say that history never repeats itself? It is you who are in an imaginary world that your arrogant behaviour and murders will come free and that you will not have to pay the price of it. Oh yeah, you must have been living for 5000 years to know all that. As though similar situations never happen in history. BETTER BE WITHIN YOUR LIMITS OR ELSE, WE WILL ORGANISE AND SEND YOU BACK!
Everything that happened in the past and that which will happen in future, there is some reason behind it. If women were discriminated for some period, what could be the cause? Its anybody’s guess. 25 years back, in India, we could probably believe feminist rantings. But today, we know. The laws and behaviour of feminists make us understand how and what could have led to that situation. I also know that it will repeat.
By Kevin Myers
Tuesday May 05 2009
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/kevin-myers/the-feminist-sirens-remained-quiet-for-the-victim-is-a-man-1728418.html
LEARN TO RESPECT THE RIGHTS OF MEN OR YOU WILL LEARN IT THE HARD WAY!
Whatever way you take it, its a clear warning to feminazis like you. May off men or the men will tackle you.
If men are physically bigger, women are stronger in many other ways. Nature has balanced every species and gender. Nothing is left without any defence and reason.
But if you feminazis start inflicting harm on us, we have every right and reason to defend ourselves. Its a simple truth and your foolish brain should understand it well. Good luck!
Women always ran the world through the backseat. They made the men perform all the difficult tasks at a time when the threat from nature was very large and providing food was not easy as it is today. There were no complaints of inequality then and women were happy to have men provide for them while they enjoyed being within the four walls or gathering food which the men hunted. Its only now and because threat from nature has decreased to zero and machines are there to perform work. So, its a joke to say that men always ruled. Yes, they did at various times. But women always did from the backseat. Further, every social movement or situation had a cause and effect. To see just the effect is foolishness. You are forgetting the most likely cause. BTW, no history book ever mentions about what preceded that for obvious reasons.
”BECAUSE WOMEN ARE NOT GENERALLY TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MEN ARE!!! DO YOU NEED MORE PROOF THAN WHAT YOU JUST WROTE? YOU ARE SHOWING THE WORLD WHAT A FOOL YOU ARE.”
A problem is a problem. The question is on the solution to the problem. We are not doing a research on terrorists and their gender. We want to eliminate terrorism. What are women doing out there? Nothing! Expecting the men to sacrifice their lives and still claim equality. For that matter, when there were beasts in the forest in the earliest stages of civilization, women were content being in the safe confines of their huts while the men took the risk. You want to shift the focus onto something else and escape the question. You cannot.
”and since when is soldier, police and firefighter a white collar job? You are completely blinded by your hatred of women, you can not even think straight any more.”
How many women soldiers have died like dogs? They just take the perks and remain in the safe confines. Otherwise, there is no reason why 94% of all deaths in wars and during the course of work should have been men.
”MEN DON’T PAY ALIMONY!!! YOU ARE LIVING IN THE DISTANT PAST!!! WOMEN DO ALL THE SAME JOBS MEN DO!!!!!! SINCE WHEN IS POLICE OFFICER AND A CONSTRUCTION WORKER A COZY JOB??????? WHY DO YOU REALLY HATE WOMEN SO MUCH???? WHY WOULD YOU WANT THEM PUT IN MEN’S PRISON????”
Men don’t pay alimony? Ask any divored man in India to know. Ask any divorcee in the west. Men are scared of divorce simply because of alimony. Women don’t do whatever a man does. They are very selective. Yes, woman police officers don’t take the risk of venturing into remote areas nor do they like being posted in danger zones! Its a fact. I don’t hate women. I hate the feminist values that are a paradox and anti-male.
”I would never want a man to be my slave, I wouldn’t have a man who was anything less than my equal!!!! Unlike you who wants all women to be slaves for your enjoyment, it don’t work the other way around.”
If you don’t want a man as your slave, why do you have all these stupid anti-male laws and keep spreading misandry. You say something and do something else. NO, I am not into keeping slaves as you feminists are.
”I see you don’t know the meaning of the word ”partner”, it is not surprising since you only see women as a life support system for a vagina.”
Hahha. Had a good laugh. I don’t know the meaning of partner? Do you know its meaning? Yes, a man who is subservient and acts according to the whims of a woman.
”I still don’t know why you care since none of it has anything to do with you.”
I am not gay. Same time, I don’t like feminist women. P
”You will never have to worry about a wife harassing you, you will never have one.”
The day feminism came into India, every man was affected as feminists poisoned the minds of women quoting imaginary and exaggerated statistics and wrong set of values. They degraded women and spolit them.
” You want men to be like you slaves, cleaning you bloody bitchy asses! We will NOT accept it!”
...Rohan there is need for you to enter in foul language.You have expressed yourself quite well.You are in league with much better expressions.There is no dearth of better words in your dictionary.You can use them to convey your viewpoints.
I am sure you know the difference between ”harsh language” and ”foul language” .The abusive language is bound to lessen the impact you wish to leave on people like Nuya.It can undo all the good impressions generated by you.
You have the capacity to sound logical and reasonable via set of proper arguments.What’s the need to introduce wrong expressions ?
Do you think the likes of Nuya who are incapable of understanding the grim issues in light of facts and well-constructed logical arguments will ever be able to understand your point of view via arguments wrapped in wrong language?
Your efforts will go in vain if you give way to wrong expressions !!
Your response shows your inability to grasp simple things. I didn’t say women didn’t contribute to society. I said, women do not perform the same roles as men and avoind inconvenient and difficult, dangerous tasks. I said women talk about equality only where it suits them and talk about tradition when it does not suits them. Otherwise, there cannot be a reason why 94% of all deaths in wars, in the course of duty and in accidents have to of men and not women. In all wars, it is the men who die as soldiers. In the Kargil war, not a single woman soldier died. In the Mumbai terror strikes, not a single woman cop died. Your insability to understand this simple logic is evidence of your feminiazism and hatred of men!
When did self-respect and self-defence become murder ot killing?
You do not even know what self-defence is. You want men to withstand all the torture from feminists and any protest is termed as ”Sick mentality of men to eliminate women”.
In other words, feminists want enslavement of men under the banner of equality and do not want men to oppose it.
She started it off somewhere refering to cleaning up the asses. I was provoked. But yes, these feminazis refuse to accept the reality until they are forced to by circumstances. Even then, they would call them exceptions.
”Women never had any power, men are predators and women are their prey and it has always been that way.”
Oh yeah, thats also the reason why we have feminists laws in all developed nations and in India too where a mere statement of a woman can land a man or men behind bars, no proof required. It is also the reason why every year, 57000 married Indian men commit sucide as compared to 23000 married Indian women. Its also the reason why under the feminist laws, there is no right of defence for a man and everything is based on the woman’s statements. And yes, all casualties in wars, jobs etc are of men and not women. 94% of all cases have men sacrifice their lives. So you still say women never had any power! And you cannot account for all these and more!
”Men are predators and women are prey”. This is a feminazi hatred concept to gain political mileage among women by provoking them. This is sexist to say the least. It is like saying, blacks are predators and whites are victims. This can land you in jail! This outrageous statement is condemnable and it defies the fact that women are human beings with all the weaknesses and strengths. Are women not human beings?
”You have a very warped sense of the world if you thought that women loved being mens slaves and punching bags.”
My warped sense of the world tells me that women are human beings as men and have similar weaknesses and strengths. Hence, sadism and the desire to dominate and dictate being innate human weaknesses, it is difficult to conceptualise how women can be beyond this. Recent incidents of sadism on the part of women and feminists, especially, in bringing about anti-male laws in the last 50 years strengthens this idea. And personally speaking, I have seen enough women who posses this. GIVEN POWER, WOMEN WILL DOMINATE AND DICTATE MEN. THIS BEING THE ERA OF FEMINAZISM, WE ARE ALREADY SEEING THE AFTER EFFECTS OF WOMEN EMPOWERMENT AND SADISM AMONG WOMEN IS AS GRAVE AND SERIOUS AS IN MEN.
By Lito Zulueta
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 03:58:00 01/24/2009
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20090124-185270/Feminism-blamed-for-erosion-of-manhood
MANILA, Philippines—A high-ranking Vatican official currently in Manila has warned of the erosion of manhood and the “crisis in fatherhood” that have resulted in millions of children worldwide without a father or enjoying emotionally healthy relations with one.
German Cardinal Paul Josef Cordes, president of the Pontifical Council “Cor Unum,” the Vatican dicastery (or administrative agency) on charity, aid and relief, blamed “gender mainstreaming” and “radical feminism” for attacking biological manhood and insisting that “sexual roles are learned.”
He said men are demeaned and what is held up as an ideal is a man who is feminized and emasculated, one who, in a European study, is held up to be “a sweeter man.”
Fatherhood in crisis
“Is male identity then nothing other than a product of a special culture and the consequences of social circumstances?” Cordes asked in his speech, “Fatherhood-An Auxiliary Role?”, which was his doctorate address Friday after receiving an honorary doctorate in theology from the Pontifical University of Santo Tomas.
The doctoral hat and cape were bestowed by UST Rector Magnificus and former Commission on Higher Education chairman Fr. Rolando V. de la Rosa, O.P.
Witnessing it were German Ambassador Christian Ludwig Weber Lortsch, Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines president Archbishop Angel Lagdameo, CHEd chair Emmanuel Angeles, and former Philippine Ambassador to the Vatican Henrietta de Villa, who is now consultor of the pontifical agency headed by Cordes.
‘The new man’
Cordes said statistics around the world “confirm that today the self-understanding of manhood and especially fatherhood is in crisis.”
He said a Catholic Charities survey in the United States showed that 24 million children are living in homes without a father. He said “fatherless boys are twice as likely to be in prison; they are more likely to drop out or be expelled from school; they account for 63 percent of suicides, and 90 percent of those who run away from home.”
He said in his own country, the German newspaper Frankfurther Allgemeinen, ran a story with the headline, “The Insecure Man.”
Cordes blamed the loss of manhood and fatherhood to liberal and secularistic legislations to invent “the new man.”
“We have grown accustomed to hearing about legislation undermining the role of the father, such as adoption by gay so-called ‘parents,’” Cordes said. “A bill passed recently in Britain (‘Human Fertilization and Embryology Bill of 2008’) allows two lesbians or single mothers to conceive a child without a father; all that is needed is ‘supportive parents.’
Some newspapers hailed this as ‘the end of fatherhood.’”
He said a survey of German universities recently showed that while there were 98 university chairs “for deepening questions on womanhood,” only one existed for men.
“In Europe, psychologists and anthropologists have labored to diminish masculinity,” Cordes said. “New investigations such as that published by the Council of Europe in 1998 claim that the ‘new man’ is ‘sweeter.’
Men and fathers should be led to become more like women and mothers in their behavior and reactions. They also advocated ‘flexibility of the sexes’ in the education of children.
Cordes said the erosion of manhood and fatherhood has a negative impact on “boys’ self-understanding,” adding that even girls form their self-understanding by their relationship with fathers and men.
Fathers as anchor
Fathers are “an anchor for us in cases of loss and danger,” said the German prelate. When children try to carve out their own autonomous existence from their parents, it is the father they look up to.
“From the presence of the male body, something is transmitted to the ‘I’ that makes the child blossom,” Cordes said. “Whoever as an individual has never been generated or raised in the way by his father or his fathers will have a limited self-esteem.”
Cordes said the loss of masculinity and the crisis in fatherhood have bearing on Christianity, which calls God as Father. “The lack of a human father makes it difficult to grasp Jesus’s teaching on the heavenly Father,” he said.
Just because they oppose people like you and wayne and your misandry, your female domination, does not make them anti-women. Just because they want regulation in society as opposed to unfettered power to women does not make them anti-women. ”Patriarchy”? Well, are you not sleeping with it too at night and whipping it during day? Its better to be very clear about things than be as crooked as feminists who want the advantages of tradition and modernity. You want tradition to remain only where it suits you and give all kinds of absurd excuses to cover-up that. Its better that we support the Vatican than the feminazis.
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Now the world is a mess and mans wars and bad decisions is leaving us worse off than ever
To me –give me as many woman as possible to straighten out this mess
Woman are much better in running a house ,and a country is just a bigger house
Give me the huge of woman rather than the back hand of man
I hope the next universe has female gods direct humans and maybe there would be more love ,consideration and thoughtfulness on that earth
Dick Chaney would be president if women voted for women just because they are women. There are more women than men in the US overall. Can you even imagine that airhead Sarah Palin being vice president? There are a lot less women in Alaska, where that no nothing, ex beauty queen was elected.
Would you vote for a woman?
When are you ever going to listen
You see what people will say when they don’t like what someone says-it is not worth it
I told truth about alcohol and the power of sex as to how us humans work that will and have real or symbolically mated with any inanimate or soft tissue thing you can imagine –guess what my truth has been denied and run from all over the world –why –because people can’t live by or face truth and are brainwashed by the culture and society lived in
Arvind you are you and don’t hide as where i would never reveal myself to dizzy emotion that would kill you a million times over if you didn’t think like their brainwashed counterparts
Sorry for the rant but it makes me fell bad you are not learning
Direction change takes time and strong will–Smarten up
Why do you even care since you will never get married anyway? Haven’t you heard there is a shortage of women in India?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2723513.stm
World Health Organization says that there are 978 females for every 1,000 males.
With that few women to go around there is no way one will be wasted on the likes of you.
If there weren’t so many like you hating females, a few more might have survived.
THINK!!!! YOU are responsible for perpetuating this, you and every man like you.
These figures come from the Indian census in 2001, so there are even less now.
I told you before that there were 60 million women missing that would be here except for the fact that so many men just don’t care about females.
Why do you Indians hate women despite of the fact that Indian women are doing well at many fronts? Do you hate them because they are denying the dowry these days?
I see that the information I provided had absolutely no effect on you whatsoever. You could not care less if ALL the women of India disappeared, you would be saying good riddance to bad rubbish!
People commit suicide all the time, all over the world and have been since the beginning of time.
Men have been using, abusing and subjugating women since the beginning of time, so what did you expect? You thought there would never be any payback for horrible way men have treated women? Payback’s a bitch as we say here, or maybe it is karma.
You are advocating a return to slavery and degradation for women, but you haven’t been able to stand it for even a few years. That is proof women are stronger than you, they put up with it for millennium without crying as much as you do.
Grow a pair dude!
You want them all dead? That is where it is headed.
Listen to the government official explain that because of the horrible attitudes of Indian men towards females, they kill them at such a rate there is now only 816 females for every 1000 males in his community. He says the dowry is also to blame because men extort money from the brides family for years and then set fire to the women if they are not paid enough. He also says the the violence and abuse that these men subject females to is so great that many women are choosing not to marry.
http://www.cvcradio.in/podcast/interview-indian-bride-shortage-shariah
There are many more of these tragic stories, all caused by women hating men just like you. Keep talking, keep trying to get laws that protect women repealed. Keep calling for a return of the abuse of human rights that Indian women have suffered. You will get your wish of a world without women soon enough.
http://maryanncp.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/bride-shortage-in-india/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/3308893/Indias-craving-for-boy-babies-leads-to-bride-shortage.html
”The parents thought their daughter could do better.”
”The girls’ parents have become very choosy.”
”The situation in Haryana has become so desperate that some parents are not only dropping their demands for wedding dowries, a tradition that still has a wide following in India, but are offering a ”bride price” to families of prospective mates for their sons.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article5977420.ece
The low number of girls is attributed to poor nutrition, inadequate medical care, desertion and infanticide. Mortality rates are considerably higher for girls than for boys. Girls are 12 percent more likely to die before the age of five than boys. If the son is sick, families in the countryside will get a doctor. If the girl is sick, they won’t. Many girls go hungry while food is directed to their brothers.
”We are still bogged down by the directives of Manusmriti (Codes of Manu, an ancient treatise) which make a girl child the most unwanted member in a household. ”
Missing women and brides from faraway:
Social consequences of the skewed sex ratio in India
http://hw.oeaw.ac.at/0xc1aa500d_0×001a819c.pdf
Ravinder Kaur
Associate Professor
Indian Institute of Technology Delhi, India
This is what you should be worried about and not sniveling about the lose of your misogynistic birthrite.
Yes i would like to be a woman and maybe your mother and then i could give you a spanking for being such a pest
Now you go do your homework before you go out and play
”We hate feminists who want men to be like slaves to women.”
But you are a chauvinist who wants all women to return to slavery, bow and gravel and walk behind you cleaning up your messes.
You demand your right to abuse and misuse the laws that were in place before..
”we need to amend the alimony act, child custody act, domestic violence act, dowry act, adultery act and many more laws”
what is the difference? The difference is that women are not killing men by the thousands!
You are just as responsible as if you killed them yourself because you insist on spreading the hatred of women to anyone who will listen. As long as you keep demonizing women, the women of your country are doomed.
Guess what? I bet many of them could move to countries that don’t have such an ingrained hatred of females and do quiet well. All of the Indian women that I know, I met in American Universities, they are smart and witty and interesting and most of them are quiet beautiful. Do you really think they want to go home to men who don’t appreciate them and only view them as slaves? I can’t imagine!
You still are not grasping the seriousness of the situation...MILLIONS of Indian females are missing from the gene pool!
your little whining about men’s rights is nothing compared to the REAL crises of skewed sex ratio in India cause by misogyny.
I have never seen such disregard for human life that would cause a man to advocate for the extermination of his own race. It is truly mind boggling!
According to the Census conducted in 2001, India had total population of 1,028,610,328 out of which population of males was 532,156,772 as against 496,453,556 number of females with overall sex ratio of 933/1000
There is a remarkably low rate of violent crime against strangers in most of the big cities, and it is safe to walk the streets of Mumbai or Bangalore late at night. But every six hours, a young married woman is burnt to death, beaten to death, or driven to suicide by emotional abuse from her husband, figures show.
More than two-thirds of married women in India aged between 15 and 49 have been beaten, raped or forced to provide sex, according to the UN Population Fund.
One of the most common causes of violence against women is dowry-related. In most of India, women’s families are still expected to provide their husbands with dowries when they marry.
Husbands - or their families - who are dissatisfied with the dowry beat, emotionally abuse and often even kill the women.
Last year 6,787 cases were recorded of women murdered by their husbands or their husbands’ families because of their dowries. Many die in ”stove burnings”: set alight by husbands or in-laws who then claim it was a kitchen accident.
The parents don’t kill the girl babies out of some sense of hopelessness, they kill them because females are viewed as nothing but a burden.
It is not propaganda when it is really happening, the word propaganda means a lie. The phenomenon of killing of female children in India is centuries old, and feminism is only decades old, thus you are the one engaging in propaganda, not the feminists.
I would gladly take responsibility
for the plight of people who lived 200 years ago, if it meant anything. This is today, this is happening now, this is not ancient history. This is about the attitudes TODAY!!!!
welcome another woman hater to the thread, now Rohan and Arvind have company.
You have also stated that women do not deserve any rights or freedoms because they do not serve in the front lines in the military.
What is feminist about rights and protections? The right to not be beaten, raped, forced into child marriage, deserted, have children taken away, disinherited, paid less, enslaved, bought, sold etc. seems only reasonable.
If those things had not been happening, there would have never been laws enacted to stop them.
The person who told you to go join the Taliban had the right idea, they have the same low opinion of women that you do.
More of your propaganda and shifting blame to divert attention is the race baiting. Again, that has nothing to do with today.
You view any woman who will not submit to being beaten, raped and enslaved as a feminist. They are supposed be locked in the house, waiting on you hand and foot, producing baby after baby. They are not supposed to have any rights or freedoms, they are supposed to be just disposable property for your enjoyment. If you all had treated them better, it would have never come to this.
It does not matter what is done with the laws, you will never be happy with it, you will never see it as equal, you will always demand less for women and more for men.
It is your choice! Do you continue to harbor this hatred for females or do you accept that you just missed out on having a built in slave by a few decades?
There is no going back now, the women have rights now, they have protections that they didn’t have before.
Women do die in combat and accidents, women do all the same things men do, soldiers, policemen, firefighters, construction workers, doctors, lawyers, teachers…. it is equal, same job, same pay.
As for Kris and his assertion that women die in hospitals, I don’t doubt it, but since most women in India never make it to a hospital or even a doctor, that is not even a small percentage of the problem. Having too many babies and having them too young depletes a woman’s body of nutrients and causes organs to fail.
There are 5 million MORE women than men in the US, it is almost exactly the same number as women over the age of 60 years. Women have not had the same amount of heart disease as men and they are more likely to go to the doctor when they are sick than men.
Who is responsible for the shortage? Everyone who has the mindset that females are not just as valuable as males, that is who!
Time to stop seeing females as a burden to be gotten rid of and start seeing them as an asset to be valued.
Time to see a partner and a friend to share your life with and stop thinking of the male paradise that you missed out on.
You can put on your own shoes, wash your own clothes and make your own meals now, so why would you expect someone else to do it for you after you are married?
You know what, those men were never happy with that, they always wanted more and they always resented it when they got it.
You can’t respect someone who you don’t view as your equal, and you can’t love someone that you don’t respect.
You are so delusional that you think women once ran the world and some super heroes managed to beat them back into the kitchens.
”””You want men to be like you slaves, cleaning you bloody bitchy asses! We will NOT accept it!”””
You are sick, you need help, you are having fantasies about something that never happened. Couldn’t happen, didn’t happen, no time in history have men ever cleaned women’s asses, and certainly not bloody asses, most men won’t even go to the store to buy Kotex!
BECAUSE WOMEN ARE NOT GENERALLY TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MEN ARE!!! DO YOU NEED MORE PROOF THAN WHAT YOU JUST WROTE? YOU ARE SHOWING THE WORLD WHAT A FOOL YOU ARE.
and since when is soldier, police and firefighter a white collar job? You are completely blinded by your hatred of women, you can not even think straight any more.
”””””Why do you expect men to pay alimony and maintenance? Why do you expect men to take over all dirty and dangerous jobs while you want equality only in white-collared cosy jobs? Why do you want crimes on women to be bracketed and dealt with seperately? Why do you want the advantages of tradition and modernity together? Don’t be a cheat!””””””
MEN DON’T PAY ALIMONY!!! YOU ARE LIVING IN THE DISTANT PAST!!! WOMEN DO ALL THE SAME JOBS MEN DO!!!!!! SINCE WHEN IS POLICE OFFICER AND A CONSTRUCTION WORKER A COZY JOB??????? WHY DO YOU REALLY HATE WOMEN SO MUCH???? WHY WOULD YOU WANT THEM PUT IN MEN’S PRISON????
I would never want a man to be my slave, I wouldn’t have a man who was anything less than my equal!!!! Unlike you who wants all women to be slaves for your enjoyment, it don’t work the other way around.
””””Its time you stopped thinking about the feminist paradise of enslavement of men that you dreampt about. We men will fight it out and you will go back if you don’t stop harassing men. LAY OFF MEN!”””
I see you don’t know the meaning of the word ”partner”, it is not surprising since you only see women as a life support system for a vagina.
I still don’t know why you care since none of it has anything to do with you.
You will never have to worry about a wife harassing you, you will never have one.
LEARN TO RESPECT THE RIGHTS OF MEN OR YOU WILL LEARN IT THE HARD WAY! ””
Sounds like a threat.
Because men have always been physically bigger, they have always used their fists to beat women into submission. Guess you plan on carrying on that tradition?
Come on now, they had to have a meeting to decide if women were even human!!!!
You pick the singularly MOST misogynistic organization on the planet to hold up as an example?
An all boys club if there was ever one, they are the bastions of patriarchy and opponents of women’s rights.
If it is even possible to have LESS regard for women than you do, it would be the Vatican.
Not to mention that the story comes from a place where women’s rights movement hasn’t even started yet. Those children are fatherless for the same reason they always have been, the men run off and abandon them.
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What do you mean by attitude problem? Don’t men have the attitude problem? You people can’t digest the advancement of women.
Women of our generation have a HUGE ATTITUDE PROBLEM AND ARROGANCE WHICH IS MANIFESTED IN THE MISUSE OF LAWS and the shameless declaration of equality, superiority and weakness all at the same time.